Toby Driver They Are the Shield
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Dis_Con_Nec_Ted
May 15th 2019


5098 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

He has excellent "hooks", yes. Just listen to some of the lower register vocals in The First Matter from Hubardo or the entirety of The Mortality of Doves, also Amalia's Theme, Craven's Dawn etc.

J() Alexander
May 15th 2019


7914 Comments


Yeah, Hubardo has some nice hooks and so do Coffins on Io and Plastic House on Base of Sky but are we going to pretend that Dowsing Anemone With Copper Tongue, Choirs of the Eye, Blue Lambency Downward, Coyote, Stained Glass, Gamma Knife, Bath, Leaving Your Body Map and In the L..L..Library Loft don't exist or something? Are we going to forget that most of his work doesn't rely on "hooks" at all?
Saying that he's at his best when he's making "hooks" is basically saying he's usually making subpar music (or at least subpar for him). His work is at his best without "hooks".

J() Alexander
May 15th 2019


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If someone asked me for my favorite moments in his work I would be able to mention at least a few, if someone asked me for my favorite Driver hooks I'd just say "The Mortality of Doves and And He Built Him a Boat" (and I'm not even sure if that guitar riff in the latter counts as a hook) and that's it.

Djang0
May 15th 2019


882 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Driver's vocal melodies are incredible. I think he shines when he's writing a "hook." Anything from Choirs, Coffins, Phobos, those mentioned cuts on Hubardo.

Hawks
May 15th 2019


88404 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Shut up Alex.

J() Alexander
May 15th 2019


7914 Comments


"Anything from Choirs"
There are "hooks" in Choirs of the Eye? Where? I don't remember any.

Dis_Con_Nec_Ted
May 15th 2019


5098 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

"Saying that he's at his best when he's making "hooks" is basically saying he's usually making subpar music (or at least subpar for him)"





I'm just saying that me personally, I prefer when he digs in to these more melodic/melancholic/moody tendencies that one can trace back all the way to early MotW. I also have appreciation for the work he's mostly known for, just not as much as I once did. I mean, I rarely ever listen to Choirs and stuff these days, so.







"His work is at his best without "hooks"."







As he says in The Shining: "not for me" 😁



J() Alexander
May 15th 2019


7914 Comments


"I'm just saying that me personally, I prefer when he digs in to these more melodic/melancholic/moody tendencies that one can trace back all the way to early MotW."
I didn't mention anything about liking more the moody/melancholic stuff 'cause, you know, that's fine; liking his hooks more on the other hand, I find it odd, considering he barely makes those.

Dis_Con_Nec_Ted
May 15th 2019


5098 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

But.. Can't hooks be melancholic/moody?!

J() Alexander
May 15th 2019


7914 Comments


... Umh, yeah?... So? I feel like I'm supposed to infer something from that question but I'm not sure what exactly.

Dis_Con_Nec_Ted
May 15th 2019


5098 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

It was as much a statement as it was a question but yeah.

J() Alexander
May 15th 2019


7914 Comments


I still don't know why you mentioned that, I never said hooks can't melancholic or moody or something like that.

Dis_Con_Nec_Ted
May 15th 2019


5098 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

"I didn't mention anything about liking more the moody/melancholic stuff 'cause, you know, that's fine; liking his hooks more on the other hand, I find it odd, considering he barely makes those."





Try reading this^ again then. Seems you like to argue just for the sake of it.

AnimalsAsSummit
May 15th 2019


6174 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

the manifold curiosity has epic hooks

J() Alexander
May 15th 2019


7914 Comments


"Seems you like to argue just for the sake of it."
I do.
I read that again, I didn't notice anything that would indicate that I said something like "hooks can't be melancholic or moody". I said that if you like Driver's work more when it's moody, that's fine, but that I find it weird that you like his (very few) hooks in particular.

J() Alexander
May 15th 2019


7914 Comments


"the manifold curiosity has epic hooks"
I decided to listen to Choirs of the Eye again (not paying it the attention it deserves, of course, considering I'm here), right now I'm listening to that one. 10 minutes in and I haven't noticed any hooks.

alamo
May 15th 2019


5575 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

o_______O

luci
May 30th 2019


12844 Comments


who remembers when toby driver dissed sputnikmusic

GhandhiLion
May 30th 2019


17643 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

He was right in doing that. He use to browse this site iirc.

Deez
May 30th 2019


10330 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

He quoted me.



A highlight in my life.



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