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"When we got together to discuss the plans for our first full length, it became clear that we didn't want to write separate songs and throw them all on one album together. We wanted to tell a story that people could listen to as a whole, but also song by song."



How many time must Rody say it before YOU get it? It IS a story.

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Rody didnt write any of the lyrics, and there's a such thing as misquotes. Like I said, the idea was something they'd wanted to do for ages, and that could very well involve a story. My point is the album does not tell as story, it revolves around one. There's a difference.

Stop arguing with me, you won't win.

Protest the Hero refuse to label Kezia a concept album specifically[1]. They have described the theme of the album as a "situation" rather than a chronological storyline, told from the perspective of three characters, and an integral part of the band members themselves.

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Arif is the one who handles the lyrics and 'stories' within the band. When they were performing the first and second tracks they wrote for Fortress live, Timba told me that he still didn't really know what they were about. So, with that, you can post misquoted shit Rody apparently said all you want.

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Who cares if Rody didn't write them? The words are still coming from a member of the band who knows his own damn album better than you. The cd IS a story, and each of the songs are about a character in that story, and his/her views and thoughts.

"The simple explanation is that you have three characters on the album who all describe a certain situation from their point of view, which is the execution of a woman. We chose a priest, a prison guard who's also the executioner and the woman in question, Kezia. They all have three songs to tell their story. In the first song they paint a general picture, the second track explains how the character feels connected to Kezia and the third one is their view on the shooting of Kezia. The last song on the album brings us as a band into the picture, although the lyrics are written in the form of Kezia's last words."

And I can understand an interview having misquotes, but five damn paragraphs of them? No. It is a story. You're wrong. Get over it.

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That last thing you posted pretty much says exactly what I have. Having three songs to tell 'their story' is not the same as the band telling a story. I'm not arguing with you, because you obviously can't figure out the simple concept of semantics.



the concept of semantics.



see what I did there? Everything you've posted has supported what I've been saying, bar Rody's excessive use of the word 'story'. This Message Edited On 09.06.07

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What??? The. Band. Is. Telling. A. Story. The albums named after the main fucking character, whom the whole album revolves around. What do you not see? Nothing you've posted has made sense. What's all this "revolves around a story" shit. It. Is. A. Story.This Message Edited On 09.06.07

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I don't see an actual story. Tell me what happens, plot-wise. I'll get something official tomorrow if you keep antagonizing me about this. I'll ask Arif if he officially considers Kezia to be a story, then you'll stop arguing something that's a complete waste of time.



The very idea of the band considering it a 'situationist requiem' is what says it doesn't tell a story, but rather revolves around a story. It's not rocket science, seriously. This Message Edited On 09.06.07

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Go ahead and ask him! How do you even know him?

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Go ahead and ask him! How do you even know him?

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What, you got him on speed dial or something? lol yeah right man you're full of shit.

And this argument is pointless. I'm going to bed.



Edit: You changed your argument anyways.

"Kezia wasn't even a story, it was just a really brief situation that was just an allegory for their beliefs, other than the last track which is sort of like an apology for their hyper-political EP and such."

That was your original argument, and you got called out on all that shit.This Message Edited On 09.06.07

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Uh, it's nothing amazing to know the guy. What, do you need proof?



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Will those extremely drunken pictures suffice, you blithering idiot? I didn't realize knowing a mildly famous canadian bassist was so unbelievable. Just like I didn't realize someone could be so daft as to be unaware of the different interpretations of the word 'story'. But, alas, you've consistently proved to be dumber than hope can rectify. Congratulations.



I came into this discussion hoping on having an actual discussion, but rather than you actually explaining yourself you went on to post press releases that were written long after the album came out. You sought out quotes that didn't validate your idea (but rather emphasized mine), and when I said I would verify with the original writer of the album's "concept", something I don't really like to do (because I don't want to be a slobbering fanboy to the dude), you claim like it's some outrageous feat to be in contact with the guy.



And it still doesn't tell a story. Argument over.

That was your original argument, and you got called out on all that ****.

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YOU'RE THE ONE WHO STARTED THE ARGUMENT DUDE.



And it does tell a story. Argument over.



"KEZIA WASN'T EVEN A STORY"This Message Edited On 09.06.07

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So then tell me what the story is? Don't say "Kezia is going to get executed" because that's not a story, that's a scenario. A story has an actual plot; this album doesn't. I have class at 9AM, so I'm going to sleep. If you can explain to me in your own words what constitutes this as a story then I'll concede. I'm not denying there is a story, I'm saying Kezia doesn't tell one so much as it revolves around one. That's what makes it an elegy, a requiem, as opposed to a full blown tale. This Message Edited On 09.07.07

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You're wrong get over it. You changed your argument after I proved you wrong with ACTUAL QUOTES from the lead singer PROVING you wrong.

But I'm tired. I'm going to bed.

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I'm still waiting for you to argue in your own words. Rody's quotes didn't validate anything, they merely emphasize the question of semantics. I'm waiting for you to explain what makes it a story, explain what elements constitute it being a story. I don't want you to find Vagrant-tweaked statement that latently say "it's a story".



Adieu.This Message Edited On 09.07.07

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Who's the guy in the glasses, in those pics?

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That would be [a very drunk/stoned/tired] me.

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How could me arguing in my own words mean more than a member of the band saying what I've been saying all along, that it's a story? You're saying "Fuck Rody, I won't believe this until Kid A tells me in his own words!" Stupid, man.

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That would be [a very drunk/stoned/tired] me.

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Still waiting for Kid A to tell me the story. If it's so blatantly a story , it should take only seconds to type out a brief synopsis.