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theBoneyKing
May 1st 2022


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Interesting observation Doof, I must admit I fall somewhat into that category myself. I'm constantly kicking myself about all the pre-90s stuff that I know I'm missing out on but I think part of the issue is there is just SO MUCH material and the 90s (80s too) are so much more a touchstone for what has come after (and what I naturally connected with as a younger listener) than anything before that it feels like the natural starting point.

I wonder if the 2020s are going to become a similar era in time especially as we've now very thoroughly settled into the streaming era and that seems like it will be the format of consumption for the foreseeable future.

neekafat
Emeritus
May 1st 2022


26926 Comments

Album Rating: 4.2

that's just the 30-year culture cycle at work

fogza
May 1st 2022


10224 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

LoL there are some spicy takes this Sunday

theBoneyKing
May 1st 2022


24890 Comments


Is that an Established Thing neek? Not a concept I've heard of before but if it's what I think it is it kind of makes sense.

Demon of the Fall
May 1st 2022


39126 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

I like the whole 60s/90s concept/idea thing, as you can probably tell I haven’t thought it through, but I get it.

Just like ‘our’ parent’s generation/nostalgia and you ‘had to be there’ etc. I say ‘our’ because although I listen to a ton of 90s music (and identify with a lot of it), I was actually 3 yo when it started, so I was too young to appreciate the culture 😄



Maybe that’s why I don’t ‘get’ Nirvana (In Utero is pretty good though).

BarbiePop
May 1st 2022


641 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

"that's just the 30-year culture cycle at work"



what does that mean? aren't you like 27? so when teenagers say the same thing to you in 10 years how will you react? I'll be here hunny

neekafat
Emeritus
May 1st 2022


26926 Comments

Album Rating: 4.2

I mean think about all the 80s bullshit in the 2010s



we're already on a 90s kick this decade



it's all fueled by nostalgia and artistic influences, there's a lot of stylistic similarities and patterns between every third decade in cinema as well

BarbiePop
May 1st 2022


641 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

80's in 2010? extrapolate.



90's this decade? who is "we"



everything artistic is passed on, and humans try and reinvent what was once considered "art". You're 27 right?

DoofDoof
May 1st 2022


17371 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

neek, the 'kids' on AOTY just rate '90s from the last century though - Radiohead, Nirvana, Bjork, Massive Attack, Weezer etc



'80s is MJ, maybe one other



just an observation



if I could get the stats on 90s ratings on that site compared to pre 90s I think it would be crazy, I imagine there are twice as many 90s ratings as all pre 90s stuff

neekafat
Emeritus
May 1st 2022


26926 Comments

Album Rating: 4.2

im 24 but idk what that has to do with observing historical patterns, I didn't have to live in the 80s to know that blockbuster nostalgia oversaturated the market and caused a drive towards independent cinema again just like it did in the 50s and now

BarbiePop
May 1st 2022


641 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

solid take doof, the 80's to me personally was the downfall of music, it was the worst decade for pop especially. Even though that era was the birth of pop, it was horrible compared to this mid 90's to late 2000's.

BarbiePop
May 1st 2022


641 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

"im 24 but idk what that has to do with observing historical patterns"



"that's just the 30-year culture cycle at work"



pick one and only one hun

neekafat
Emeritus
May 1st 2022


26926 Comments

Album Rating: 4.2

"Stranger Things"? Burno Mars? Synthpop somehow being cool again? every blockbuster reboot was of an 80s film. every pop artist was making 80s knockoffs.

DoofDoof
May 1st 2022


17371 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

I guess for me as a kid the '60s represented 'when popular music started' and before then just seemed like a David Lynch black and white noir void of impenetrability, just too ancient.



I feel there's something like that going on for the 90s, before seems really musty for a 19 year old now, but hey "Weezer are still going!" sort of thing.



It's like there's a starter kit of like I said about fifty 90s albums all the users on AOTY have rated.

BarbiePop
May 1st 2022


641 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

yeah and The Thing was an 80's movie right? Oh wait that was a remake...

BarbiePop
May 1st 2022


641 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

@doof Weezer was my teenage obsession

theBoneyKing
May 1st 2022


24890 Comments


Doof, is the AOTY userbase notably younger than RYM/Sput? Curious because based on my (admittedly very limited) observations of that site I would’ve thought it skewed a bit older.

Anyways, I’m not sure how extreme this lack of pre-90s knowledge you’re referring to is, I myself have only about 100 pre-90s albums that I have rated and hence know very well, compared to a bit under 300 90s albums total and much more from the later decades, though I feel I’m still very aware of 60s-90s music through cultural immersion/my parents. I guess there comes a point where art feels a bit too distant to actually be relevant or worth spending time with because it becomes so fully ingrained in the culture. It feels wrong to have to “get into” The Beatles or Dylan or Bowie or [insert any significant artist whose major works came before like 1985) because it’s practically assumed that already have that knowledge.

BarbiePop
May 1st 2022


641 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

@theBoneyKing I can help you out hun



The Beatles are the most overrated rock band in history, closely followed by Aerosmith and The Rolling Stones.



Bob Dylan was a great person and a lyrical genius. Jimi worshipped that man for a reason, especially the album Blonde on Blonde.



David Bowie has never recorded a bad release, very unique and spunky artist. I have always loved that man especially in the movie Labyrinth.

fogza
May 1st 2022


10224 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

" Even though that era was the birth of pop"



I think that's a bit of a stretch

BarbiePop
May 1st 2022


641 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

Really? Name one pop artist from the 70's. I'll be here.



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