Meshuggah The Violent Sleep of Reason
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JayEnder
January 28th 2022


22749 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Pretty sure that was directed solely at me otherwise you wouldn't have pointed out the 100 gecs thing



I can bench 210 thanks and my 5's are based

TheSpirit
Emeritus
January 28th 2022


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Additionally, I understand how forward thinking this type of metal was when Meshuggah first debuted it, but I just don't feel **personally** that they've achieved any meaningful growth since then. Do i think all bands need to constantly evolve? Absolutely not. But like JayEnder said, some people (me in this instance) find this one dimensional. It's just not something I feel super compelled to listen to, which is a shame b/c I would love to join in on the hype whenever they release new material. Hence why I keep trying to "get it" every few years.

CottonSalad
January 28th 2022


3275 Comments


wholesome vibes pls thnx

TheSpirit
Emeritus
January 28th 2022


30304 Comments


they threw tomatoes at me!!!!!


But thank you, I think you’re a great user too :]

JayEnder
January 28th 2022


22749 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Spirit is cool just some of his opinions make me wanna wish him an non-Merry Christmas. Sorry no more mean comments!

WalrusTusk
January 28th 2022


2028 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

The solo at the end of this is the same one from "The Demon's Name is Surveillance". Prove me wrong.

Trifolium
January 28th 2022


41141 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

There's a certain genuineness about Meshuggah too that wasn't discussed yet. They're no showoffs whatsoever, makes them more likable.

Relinquished
January 28th 2022


50089 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

jay nothin personal man but they still smell of tight jeans u probably use gloves too!1!



“I understand that many people probably give them that “pass” b/c they think ‘sshug do it better and more power to them for that! I just disagree.”



The “pass” happens cuz on top of the flak metalcore was getting, fans didn’t like how obvious the shuggah style was getting co-opted. it was so obvious to points of rip-offs. periphery was fuckin lames from the jump, textures didn’t go hard enough, and everyone wanted Line 6 amps and drum programming machines.

but meshuggah was never pretentious about their stuff. the “forward-thinking” metal thing was cuz no one did what they did in 2005, an absurd, pieced-up continuous concept metal album, with insane programming.

Trifolium
January 28th 2022


41141 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

"meshuggah was never pretentious about their stuff"

Exactly what I meant, yeah.

Pikazilla
January 28th 2022


32373 Comments


"The “pass” happens cuz on top of the flak metalcore was getting, fans didn’t like how obvious the shuggah style was getting co-opted. it was so obvious to points of rip-offs. periphery was fuckin lames from the jump, textures didn’t go hard enough, and everyone wanted Line 6 amps and drum programming machines.

but meshuggah was never pretentious about their stuff. the “forward-thinking” metal thing was cuz no one did what they did in 2005, an absurd, pieced-up continuous concept metal album, with insane programming."

Super based

Relinquished
January 28th 2022


50089 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

who were brave enough to play 8-strings as a bass guitar in 2002??



nobody else?? I thought so

JayEnder
January 28th 2022


22749 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

You got me on the skinny jeans Wolfe. Lol

Gnocchi
Staff Reviewer
January 28th 2022


18452 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

As an avid fan of Shuggah (esp. the more recent albums) I can't understand just how 'filler' this single is. Especially considering that this is the leading single in their new promo cycle. Say what you will about the fan-boys and naysayers; the praise this single is getting is pretty hyperbolic. Song screams a firm 3.2 album and I really hope the band is cucking us at this stage (i.e. when April 1st comes and the rest of the album hits, it hits hard: April's Fool Motherfuckers style).



that would be lambasted if another band put them out, bad and awkward synths, and the typical modern prog metal tap-y noodle solo



This statement is about 85% true for me. If any other act with less of the fanbase popped up with this single it would be copping some decent criticism and there would be a measure of bigotry to suggest anything else.



but meshuggah was never pretentious about their stuff. the “forward-thinking” metal thing was cuz no one did what they did in 2005, an absurd, pieced-up continuous concept metal album, with insane programming.



I like this point and I don't. I think we need to start finding a logical thought process to distance idealisms and stamps decades down the line - but this point isn't just for Meshuggah, more of an industry/metal genre afterthought that could be made relevant to any act that set an example way back when.

JayEnder
January 28th 2022


22749 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

I'm not hearing the awkward synths. Are we listening to the same song?

CottonSalad
January 28th 2022


3275 Comments


I mean, it totally is just "a song"...Clockworks was this huge statement, similar to Bleed...and this rollout feels like verse/chorus/bridge/solo/outro haha...with the general chatter being about "diversity" for the record, I am sure your April Fools pitch isn't far off Gnocchi.

Regardless, im vibin

DType
January 28th 2022


3278 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

"but meshuggah was never pretentious about their stuff. the “forward-thinking” metal thing was cuz no one did what they did in 2005, an absurd, pieced-up continuous concept metal album, with insane programming."



Iirc they even wheren't sure Catch33 would succeed cuz it was a bold direction at the time, so if people didn't liked it that much they would understand

supremejelly
January 28th 2022


1265 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

One of them made a statement like "We're old now we're relaxing a bit", between that and the new song I'm expecting the new album to be even more straightforward than Reason

Em1994
January 28th 2022


1118 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Dont get this filler talk. It's a good track. And its meshuggah. No need to complain that it's not the greatest track they ever made. Or that they made a song in their style. What were ppl expecting ?? You either like meshuggah or dont. But theres nothing to complain about with the new track unless you just dont like the band. P.s supreme new track is more complex than most of reason to my ears.

TheSpirit
Emeritus
January 28th 2022


30304 Comments


"The “pass” happens cuz on top of the flak metalcore was getting, fans didn’t like how obvious the shuggah style was getting co-opted. it was so obvious to points of rip-offs. periphery was fuckin lames from the jump, textures didn’t go hard enough, and everyone wanted Line 6 amps and drum programming machines."


i understand what you're talking about and agree, but that wasn't exactly what i meant. lots of 00's metalcore & deathcore before dj0ntcore was obviously very chuggy, and for the longest time, was blasted b/c of that and the overuse of breakdowns. while i understand that 'sshug does do some cool stuff in terms of time signatures, a lot of their guitar work (to me) isn't TOO different in that sense, and yet they are very highly praised. that doesn't make sense to me.

i have to agree with how cool the band is though. not pretentious at all despite having changed the metal landscape and i've enjoyed every interview i've ever seen with them.

DType
January 28th 2022


3278 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

The filler track is a bit of a stretch imo, sure, it wasn't omega level single ala Bleed/Clockworks but solid without a doubt, it definitely feels "them" and got me pumped for more



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