It used to be definitive though, hence the wildly disparaging "these rappers make black people look dumb" comments from certain old school MC's

Album Rating: 4.5

Yea, I've seen a lot of people hating on it. I might've heard bits of songs here and there... doesn't resonate.

I think metal can definitely by heady but it takes nuance. Gorguts comes to mind

"I do still value a certain level of intellect in hip hop"

Check Logic bro he's so smart he raps so fast.

He on that mathematician shit.

Album Rating: 3.0 | Sound Off

human intelligence is wack

"I do still value a certain level of intellect in hip hop"

Good luck finding that in the upcoming decade

Album Rating: 3.5

Steve Lehman's Selebeyone album is scratching that itch for me, nice balance of the apollonian and dionysian. Experimental Jazz & badass Hip Hop.

Album Rating: 2.5

The t/t grew on me but sadly I can't say the same for the others. The only songs I can say I really love / have replay value are 7empest, Pneuma, t/t, and Invincible. The rest are good but they just don't really do it for me.



Listening to their discog recently seems to have made things worse too I think. it really doesn't hold a candle to Aenima/Lateralus, not even 10k days or Undertow imo. Might give this one a rest for a bit and come back to it later.

Album Rating: 3.5

I think Pneuma is my fav, I like the simple (but forever relevant) lyrics about existing between the body and the transcendent.

Lol

Album Rating: 4.5

Hexfix, you just don’t GET it man.

Album Rating: 4.0

"The only songs I can say I really love / have replay value are 7empest, Pneuma, t/t, and Invincible."



But that's all but 2 songs...

Album Rating: 3.5

"Listening to their discog recently seems to have made things worse too I think. it really doesn't hold a candle to Aenima/Lateralus, not even 10k days or Undertow imo." [2]

Album Rating: 2.5

Hexfix, you just don’t GET it man.



I was already shown the Mystery of all Mysteries by secret deities I can't speak the names of. Tool records, particularly this one, are far below my level of spiritual enlightenment.

Album Rating: 2.5

But that's all but 2 songs...



Well, that's why I've rated it a 3.5. 3.5 isn't a bad rating lol. 7empest and Pneuma are both superb, and the only tracks I find comparable to Tool's best albums. Invincible and FI are a step below but they're both great songs. The others, well, I'm just not feeling them. I actually like all Tool albums (except Opiate) better than this overall.



Although it occurs to me you're referring to how I worded my comment "These are the only tracks I like". But I mean, there's only 6 real songs on here and given the song lengths, those 2 tracks are a good portion of the album.

Album Rating: 4.0 | Sound Off

yes definitely the only one

Album Rating: 3.0

No man, many people believe this, including yours truly. Plus the average is the shared lowest (with Undertow).

Album Rating: 2.5 | Sound Off

much worse than Undertow [3]

Album Rating: 5.0

Jeez! How old are you guys?