Album Rating: 4.5

Yeah, coming into this expecting post-rock created one of the most confusing first listens I ever had. It definitely was influential in post-rock but it really is not post-rock in itself. It has much more the feel of a slowcore album to me.

@theBoneyKing Listen to more 90s post rock and less Explosions in the Sky esque crap then

Album Rating: 5.0

This orchids hard but not that hard

This is definitely post rock. Post rock is just music with rock instrumentation that doesn't follow standard rock compositional structure, imo. So this fits that category, even if post rock nowadays is more or less a byword for Explosions in the Sky-core.

Album Rating: 4.5

What separates this from post rock for me is that it doesn’t have quite the full emphasis on texture and atmosphere that post rock supposedly has. Except for For Dinner everything here is still very clearly song-based and I think that abstracts it from post-rock enough that it’s really only post rock in a secondary sort of way. The first two and last track are more post-hardcore/noise rock than they are post rock and the third and fourth tracks (especially Washer) are pretty much textbook slowcore. The sound has elements that were clearly influential in post-rock but most of these pieces do not seem post-rock in themselves.

Album Rating: 5.0

This is definitely slint

Album Rating: 4.5

I’m not denying there’s any post-rock; it’s just not the best descriptive term for this, certainly not in isolation. I’m arguing it’s slowcore/post-hardcore/noise rock/whatever before it is post-rock; at the very least it is certainly as much those other things as it is post-rock.

At the end of the day though, it’s just good music and what genre it is is unimportant!

I think it's reasonable to fold most of the disparate influences/sounds you're (Boner) referring to (all of which I agree with) under the post rock umbrella and be more or less correct in the case of this album.

"Things can be two or more things, fact"

Agree, I just think post rock does the best job as a primary genre label for this album

Album Rating: 4.5

Couldn’t you use the same arguments for first wave BM, it’s accepted as the initial phase/birthing/whatever of that genre but someone who exclusively listened to later BM wouldn’t necessarily recognise it as such unless they had prior knowledge of that fact?



Just because this doesn’t sound like post-rock now, there are still elements of that sound & it satisfies the basic description laid out by Spaceship

Album Rating: 5.0

"Post rock is just music with rock instrumentation that doesn't follow standard rock compositional structure"



that's not what makes something post rock. Boney is right, it's based on the texture and specific characteristics of the sound

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Album Rating: 5.0

what aren't?

Album Rating: 5.0

in context of what spacesh1p was saying to boney + him using the word 'just' in his definition, theres no reason to say those two things arent mutually exclusive since I don't think anybody thinks that they are mutually exclusive



"jazz is just defined as music with a saxaphone"



"no jazz is characterized by its blues/swing influence, improvisation, ensemble and pitch/timbre control"



"but you can do all that with a saxaphone so"

Album Rating: 4.5

If we want to get really picky, here’s the quote from Simon Reynolds, who supposedly coined the term (though you can argue that that doesn’t mean that his definition fits what people later used the term for):

using rock instrumentation for non-rock purposes, using guitars as facilitators of timbre and textures rather than riffs and power chords

Album Rating: 5.0

agreed



ps: nice unintentional emoticon

Album Rating: 4.5

heh

Album Rating: 5.0

This should be at a 4.5 avg

Album Rating: 5.0

Even though this probably isn't my #1 album of all time, I'd say it has to be probably the most unique album I've ever heard.

Album Rating: 4.5

revolutionary.

Album Rating: 4.0

Open the door

Get on the floor

Everybody give this thing a 4.0