the division is there
you can hear it
like brainiac are fucking synth punk and people call them noise rock now wtf
cows are just lame post-hxc made by junkies with attitude

helmet is so fucking far away from boredoms.

think he's approaching it from a more noise purist vantage point. the bands you named ars are shallower on the 'noise' side of the spectrum and deeper on the 'rock/punk' side

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Sach, every band you named as true noise rock came out in the 90s/2000s even though the term noise rock has been around since like 1980

brainbombs is just the angels (AUS), with a more overtly misogynistic guy that sounds like he has a perpetual cold up-front, recorded on 4-track

"think he's approaching it from a more noise purist vantage point. the bands you named ars are shallower on the 'noise' side of the spectrum and deeper on the 'rock/punk' side"

That's an incredibly reductive way to look at music.

noise rock started in the 70s with the new blockaders tbh
and you could argue its origins date even earlier to pockets of AMMs early work

sach do u view early (late 70s) half japanese as noise rock?

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Noise rock and post-hardcore famously crossover all of the time anyway

boredoms are just spazz rock but people add the noise because it sounds less pussy and prob because japanese music always gets that leg up because hiroshima

"Noise rock and post-hardcore famously crossover all of the time anyway"
no, that's the effect of post-hxc wankers moochin off the real
coopted by cunts

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How can AMM be noise rock when it isn't rock?

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i'd argue early half japanese is noise rock, at least up to sing no evil

nah never found half japanese to be of the noise rock ethos
shit sounded like edgy post-punk to me

"How can AMM be noise rock when it isn't rock?"
what

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"and you could argue its origins date"



he never said it was noise rock



a good deal of genres are inspired and take from entirely unrelated genres and sounds

how is it reductive? if you have a threshold whereby you deem something as being 'x' only by having a certain amount of influence or incorporation of 'y' you aren't being reductive you are being selective about how you qualify something.

if you think free improvisation is a genre and not just an adjective to denote "almost entirely unstructured" you got cum on your cerebellum

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Every source for AMM calls them noise, jazz, and free improv



Noise by itself isn't noise rock ....

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"origins"



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