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Tundra
January 24th 2026


10810 Comments

Album Rating: 1.0

There's always a way to go further. If videogames are solved, I'll look forward to going to Mars someday. Looks like that's not solved huh?

pyroflare77
January 24th 2026


591 Comments


When games are now designed by committee and are not passion projects, there will be no innovation. That costs money! Casual gamers are also cattle so there's no reason to innovate, either, because that costs money.

Tundra
January 24th 2026


10810 Comments

Album Rating: 1.0

Anyways. Polyphia has clearly innovated and it's why they're now borderline mainstream. You mean to tell me djent had already been perfected before Polyphia blew up? No, djent clearly had plenty of room to evolve, and it has done many times in the past 10 years.

pyroflare77
January 24th 2026


591 Comments


Now he's talking to himself

Tundra
January 24th 2026


10810 Comments

Album Rating: 1.0

"So like if guitar music isn't solved, where the fuck is the dm/bm titan new extreme sound waiting in the shadows? That's what I mean. Metal really started to bubble in the 80s and it was pushed to the limits in less than 20 years. All that's left is table scraps and mixing leftovers."

Are you talking about this? Since the 80s melodic death metal blew up, then metalcore. Boom, innovation. Riffs hadn't been done like that before. Then deathcore chugs and slam chugs. More innovation. Djent. And everything else I've said millions of times by now. Since the 80s we are left with plenty of room for the guitar to evolve, it has done so many times within the past 10 years. If you want to go 20 years or even 30 years, then sure thing. That just makes the argument easier for me.

Teal
January 24th 2026


678 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Great album. Expanded on what NS did.

pyroflare77
January 24th 2026


591 Comments


Presumably you mean melodic metalcore. The one that rehashes gothenburg riffs? That metalcore? The genre name that means metal + hardcore? Something that's mixing leftovers?

Tundra
January 24th 2026


10810 Comments

Album Rating: 1.0

Innovation definition "make changes in something established, especially by introducing new methods, ideas, or products." Innovation takes something established and makes something new out of it. You cannot convince me that Polyphia is not a new exciting Innovation. Their seismic blowup is clear proof. It's something no one has ever done before taking something established and making it fresh. That's what Innovation is all about.

Larkinhill
January 24th 2026


8353 Comments


Wow I missed some shit. Catching up on my “reading” now lol

pyroflare77
January 24th 2026


591 Comments


Yes, it's quite clear that nobody can convince you of anything

Tundra
January 24th 2026


10810 Comments

Album Rating: 1.0

Well this went nowhere, and I'm still right. Later bozo.

pyroflare77
January 24th 2026


591 Comments


I got out of the car a while ago because you can't drive. All you had to do was stay on the road and you couldn't even manage that.

Hawks
Staff Reviewer
January 24th 2026


117732 Comments

Album Rating: 2.7

Lmao this thread man.

pyroflare77
January 24th 2026


591 Comments


Like nothing's escaped the gravitational pull of their parent genre since like power metal. Heavy, thrash, doom, prog, death, black, power. The metal solar system. Rock's been dead in the ground for decades now, I haven't heard of anything crazy coming out of jazz fusion. Guitar music is here, new satellites can be made, but there are no new planets and there won't be any new planets.

trilo
January 24th 2026


7161 Comments


i love sputnikmusic.com

artificialbox
Emeritus
January 24th 2026


3823 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

pyro out-discoursing Tundra best play of 2026 so far

heck
January 24th 2026


7530 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

we live in a post-social media world where many bands only "blow up" because of aggressive targeted marketing campaigns and 10 second clips going viral on TikTok, can we stop equating mainstream recognition with objective quality? the most forward-thinking artists are usually the ones doing things so unconventional that the mainstream would never give them the time of day. I'm not saying innovative bands can't be successful, just that people need to stop equating the two.



and for that matter, let's stop equating innovation with quality as well.

Tundra
January 24th 2026


10810 Comments

Album Rating: 1.0

Djent created. Metalcore created. Boom. New planets. You could argue each of my djent innovations is a new sub subgenre. There's already an official one. Thall. You could call Berried Alive style trap djent. Syncatto flamenco djent. This discussion is completely asinine.

heck
January 24th 2026


7530 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

why are we talking about two genres created in the 90s as if they're new innovations?

Tundra
January 24th 2026


10810 Comments

Album Rating: 1.0

@heck yup they are innovations indeed. The mainstream is innovating more than the underground these days which is weird, but it's very true. Polyphia should not have blown up the way that it did. It's math rock technical guitar music with trap beats. Yet, it was executed so well that it took the world by storm.



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