Album Rating: 2.0

"I wrote 'lol' as the first comment itt specifically because of that (and the rating + album summary) and it was deleted twice, presumably by Chan since he has something against me. I am biased tho, in that I think incorporating too many anecdotes and religious or political ideologies in reviews is poor form. Chan has a tendency to drone on about himself and dig for subtext that usually isn't there IMHO"



dude that was obviously a sowing move

Album Rating: 4.0

Wasn't me but you keep on blaming your favorite imaginary villain!

Album Rating: 2.0

Just out of curiosity, why do you like to see religiously inclined bands express doubt? I think it's cool when they don't personally

Album Rating: 2.5

Eh, someone did. It doesn't matter tho.



I don't have anything against you Chan, just not keen on your reviewing style.

Album Rating: 3.0

Yeah i really dont get the point of the religious parts of this review at all

Album Rating: 4.0

It made sense to me. Thrice is a very spiritual band so why wouldn't their music and subsequent critiques draw upon that?

Album Rating: 3.0

dunno it's just something i listen for, sometimes unconsciously



although i did hear underoath's new album so perhaps it doesn't always make for good music



i didn't plan on commenting on reviews anymore but i've come this far, so i will also say that thrice is most definitely a religious band. those who don't hear that are perhaps not knowledgeable about the bible. and that is fine. but those references are in like 80% of thrice songs.

Album Rating: 2.0

Yeah some of their lyrics and song titles are literally taken from bible verses. Image of the invisible for example

Album Rating: 3.0

'like moths to flame' is literally about peter betraying jesus

Album Rating: 4.0

Yeah Thrice and mwY both quote religious text like 50% of the time or more which is part of what makes them so intriguing.

Album Rating: 2.0

The references are of course there, but Dustin usually writes them in a way that can be open to interpretation for the listener so that they don't have to be about religion if you don't want them to be. You'll notice Dustin often side steps giving an explicit explanation of his lyrics because he doesn't want to paint anyone's view of what the song is about. The review then name drops a few songs while criticizing them for being preachy, when I never even applied a religious meaning to those lyrics in the first place. It's just a strange paragraph in an otherwise solid write up.

Album Rating: 3.0

strange because you don't hear what i hear?

Album Rating: 2.0

Strange that you said his lyrics were trying to convert people and that they had an attitude of "Christians are the only people capable of keeping promises" that spoil otherwise good songs. I really like this review and agree with it quite a bit, but half of that second paragraph really should not have been here.

Album Rating: 3.0 | Sound Off

Yeah I'm a pretty serious atheist and Dustin's lyrics haven't ever bothered me for being preachy, but they have bothered me when they're cliche-riddled or just uninteresting. The Dark, lyrically speaking, has to be the worst song they've ever released on an LP.

Album Rating: 2.0

The past two albums have been a sea of bad lyrics and it really is heart breaking

Album Rating: 2.5

Major/Minor is the worst offender with overtly religious lyrics. I probably make the connections easier because I grew up in church but it's ALL OVER that album, though done in a way that could ultimately be interpreted as something else. But still...

Yellow Belly is about Satan.

Cataracts invokes heavy imagery of Paul having the scales fall from his eyes on the road to Damascus.

Treading Paper is making a case for a supernatural realm that transcends physical reality.

Words in the Water is 100% about the Christian gospel (someone *Jesus* took that heavy book *the law* from my hands. All its weight they set aside after they had satisfied its demands *Jesus dying in the place of sinners, fulfilling God's law*)

Listen Through Me is literally Dustin telling everyone to give the idea of God and objective truth a chance.

Disarmed is speaking to end times from a Christian perspective, where Satan, death personified, will be defeated.

Album Rating: 2.5

Please note that I'm not trying to preach any of that here, at all. Just pointing out what is pretty plain considering beliefs that Dustin has held to for a long time (though many of those do indeed seem to be shifting of late).

Album Rating: 3.0

Honestly not that mad at this. Obvs doesn’t touch the holy trinity (Illusion, Artist, Vheissu) but not far off everything since.

Album Rating: 2.0

It'll be interesting to see how the band reacts to all of the negative backlash of this record.

Album Rating: 3.0

3.4 dayum you guys are ruthless