Neurosis Souls At Zero
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ThunderNeutral21
October 9th 2012


3863 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

man do we disagree about neurosis



i have it at a 2.5, i have my reasons though

Relinquished
October 9th 2012


50089 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

not very understandable reasons, but reasons nonetheless

ThunderNeutral21
October 9th 2012


3863 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

they are understandable



i find the album



a. underwhelming

b. to have uneven, flat songwriting where the songs drag and drag with no impact

c. the flow is uneven at times

d. i don't find the atmosphere as engrossing as the atmosphere of other neurosis records

e. besides crawl back in and stones from the sky, none of the songs to me are memorable at all

f. there's even one or two outright shitty songs with poor pacing and bland instrumentals



i think those are understandable reasons

cagedescending
October 9th 2012


4124 Comments


ASTNS is tied for second with TEoES after TSIB for me, then it's this

then again, i haven't listened to ToG enough so that's subject to change

Insurrection
October 9th 2012


24856 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

neutral those are the worst reasons ever

Relinquished
October 9th 2012


50089 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

I personally can't even imagine how you see the album that way but whatever

cagedescending
October 9th 2012


4124 Comments


i kind of agree with the notion that it drags in places eg. Falling Unknown could have like at least a minute trimmed off with zero negative consequence

ThunderNeutral21
October 9th 2012


3863 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

http://www.allmusic.com/album/a-sun-that-never-sets-mw0000007058



that review has some of my points



even if im wrong, i honestly don't see how the majority of the album isn't bland and uneven, idk i

love neurosis now but that album literally just drags and drags with no force. but the closer is like

omg obvi

ThunderNeutral21
October 9th 2012


3863 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

stones is by far the best on the album, and yes, one of their best and most dynamic pieces of music. the rest of the album isn't nearly on that level.



i don't really see how the music on astns is emotive. Most of the melodies are lifeless, and a lot of the usual sonic textures and little details that neurosis normally pull off well in the context of their songs, doesn't work for me at all on this album. I just find that when I put the album on, I start, feel bored, it picks up a bit, then it drags and drags and drags and then it ends with a bang.



as far as the flow being uneven, i just feel like some sections and even whole songs go well together and some don't, and just kind of feel jagged and random up against eachother. the flow isn't as holistic and precise as it is on other albums. if you were asking for specific songs, id have to jam it once or twice again to find the ones I meant, it's been a while, and again, for me, most of the album is insanely gray and unmemorable.



in terms of songs i think are bland and uninteresting



falling unknown (worst neurosis song over 10 mins for me, as harsh as that sounds)

watchfire (tedious and boring)

from where its roots run (flat out annoying song i skip over it every time)

ThunderNeutral21
October 9th 2012


3863 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

at least were having an actual discussion abt music on sputnik, don't see that every day

Insurrection
October 9th 2012


24856 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

neutral how many times have you heard the album? twice?

ThunderNeutral21
October 9th 2012


3863 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

ive heard a sun that never sets 4 or 5 times in full. all times after i was properly into the band. that doesnt count how many times ive played individual songs from it

Insurrection
October 9th 2012


24856 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

fuck individual songs, that album takes the most amount of listens to sink in imo listen to it a few more times then get back to us

ThunderNeutral21
October 9th 2012


3863 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

yea insurrection im rlly not in the business of impressing you since your taste is fucking shit



and ive tried the record, i wanna say 5 or 6 times on itunes in full, and a couple times on long drives. i gave it 7 or 8 tries and i cannot get into it. i love all of their other post souls work though

Insurrection
October 9th 2012


24856 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

>thinks a neurosis album post-souls is 2.5

>insults other peoples taste

ThunderNeutral21
October 9th 2012


3863 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

thinks periphery is a 4



thinks he is intelligent

Insurrection
October 9th 2012


24856 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

when did i say i was intelligent?

Relinquished
October 9th 2012


50089 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

well I can see you don't understand the album. the flow problem I can understand cuz it was a problem for me upon first couple listens. the piano in The Tide doesn't fit and if you have that problem too then I can understand. and the instrumental short passages I can see being filler to some.



I feel like it has a very similar atmosphere to TSIB; it's very mountainous, crushing, and imposing. the emotion comes from their vocals and in a lot of the chord progressions.



I know you haven't seen them perform the songs live like I have, and the dvd with the videos accompanying the songs, but all that together made the album better for me.

ThunderNeutral21
October 9th 2012


3863 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

dont lie insurrection



u think u iz smart



u see people in school with lamb of god tees and your like



LOLOLOLOL THEY HAVENT HEARD TRUE MEHTAL LIKE PERIPHERY 2 OR PARALLAX 2 OMG POSERS IM SO MUCH BETTER

cagedescending
October 9th 2012


4124 Comments


"i don't really see how the music on astns is emotive."

If you think of the title and general theme of the album as a kind of metaphor for perseverance, I reckon it clicks. With me at least, having been in a pretty deep hole and having to just man the fuck up, stop being a bitch and climb out of it. Same reason I dig TEoES. Makes songs like the title track (The blood is my strength, I'm not alone) and Falling Unknown (Under the cloud cover, the flares signal change. Will you ever know? The fields they are burning, the smoke chokes your breath. Will you stand or run? + Is your heart still beating? Can you feel this at all? This landside will bury us all) resonate.

That's my flaggy as fuk take on it at least



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