Album Rating: 4.5

If you dug that, Demon, you oughta check out the release Le Pre Ou Je Suis Mort put out. Incredible stuff in a similar Euro screamo vein



Mesa Verde, too

Album Rating: 4.5

and sed non satiata

Album Rating: 5.0

Anyone wanting some more Orchid type shit should check Drei Affen if you haven't already. Intense DIY Spanish screm. Much screm.

Album Rating: 5.0

Also tbf Cotton and Demon i get where you're coming from, chaos in me was pretty unlistenable to me when I first tried it. Don't know what happened but their sound just opened up and clicked after a while, idk why. Gotta be in a simultaneously furious/sad boi mindset maybe, not furious enough for the likes of Nails type hardcore and not sad boi enough for something slightly more nuanced a la "Vi Som Alaskade".

"I feel like if they only screamed sometimes it would have some sort of impact but having nothing but screaming the whole time is like the angry musical equivalent of just eating straight salt"
lol this reminds me of when Sowing dropped into the Ulcerate thread and said he wished the vocals could be cleans
"Gotta be in a simultaneously furious/sad boi mindset maybe"
Yeah for real - best of both worlds, but you've gotta be juggling them to begin with. maybe

Album Rating: 5.0

@demon & colton: You're SOFT.

Album Rating: 3.0

Cheers porc, Mesa Verde are pretty good. I’ll see about those other recs.

@Johnny: hmm although I get the ref and it is in some way true, personally I can see where he’s coming from. Then again context is important, so I’d hazard a guess that it holds more weight coming from someone who has 20%+ DM in their pie chart (i.e. me)... and yeah honestly for the style I’d rather the screams were broken up, not with cleans but with quieter more considered moments, or simply ‘space’. If it’s incessantly fast paced and filled to the brim with screams then yes it a) gets tiresome quick and b) loses any impact it may have initially conjured. It’s a balancing act.

Album Rating: 4.5

soft take

Album Rating: 4.5

WE SMILED AND SAID

I'LL SEE YOU THIS SUMMER

BUT WE KNOW THAT IT WAS OVER



THAT'S JUST WHAT YOU SAY TO

SOMEONE WHO'S DYING

THAT'S JUST WHAT YOU SAY

Album Rating: 3.0

Yeah this makes me soft agreed (3).

Album Rating: 4.5

you should go see a doctor

I gotta check this band eventually

Album Rating: 4.5

Check 'em now, the albums are like 3 minutes long, it's very low investment

Album Rating: 4.0

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also, the aggression seems pretty well-paced considering the length of these albums overall. cmon, like 15 minutes? and their longest album (24 min lol) is spaced out with plenty of softer, melodic moments

Album Rating: 5.0

Yeah, it's all extremely digestible. But anyways, I think this music is supposed to be very brutal, it's just consequently not metal and pretty melodic at times. Dunno why dm is just fine with all screams and general brutality in an album for 40 mins but this isn't somehow. It's still a subgenre of hardcore, which is heavy music. But if you guys want a more skramz with ebbs and flows, try Funeral Diner and Envy. Early Pianos Become the Teeth even. Perhaps Birds in Row's first album. Cryonics by Hot Cross. Off Minor. Yaphet Kotto.



Edit: Plus, people usually call stuff like Orchid, Jerome's Dream, Usurpe Synapse, Pg. 99, Swing Kids, etc. emoVIOLENCE like same as when regular hardcore is cranked to 11 with blast beats, it's powerviolence. Like it's totally meant to be aggressive as fuck music.

Album Rating: 5.0

Fuck me i need to rejam off minor, its been years

Album Rating: 3.0

There’s a difference between not liking something and being unable to process it Million, your comment has some decent and possibly useful info (as far as I can tell) but it made me roll my eyes pretty hard due to your defensive and rather condescending tone.

Album Rating: 5.0

@Demon: Well, I mean, keep rolling them. No one's stopping you. It's Sput. Land of opinionated assholes. Idk why we're tone policing now. I only say what I say because it seems most fans of this music don't have the same qualms you and Colt have, and I'm speaking in defense of the music being exactly what it is.



@Colt: Screams don't hit my ear the same way that singing does at all, and I don't think they're meant to. I don't think of screams as notes. More textures. I feel like it's better to look at them more like a percussive element and not look for a catchy melody in them. Something raw and primal to a good scream/growl imo. I do hope you find some heavy shit that works for you one day, though.

Album Rating: 5.0

In terms of accessible heavy shit, can't really go wrong with Mutoid Man. Mathy metalcore fun with old school heavy metal and all sorts of other things packed into it.

Album Rating: 5.0

True! That's a pretty solid band. Also, Colt, have you ever just listened to Sleep? Lots of people love Sleep that don't really enjoy heavy music at large.