Rock and Roll Girlfriend is the best part of Homecoming, its the only part i like, tre cool really is very cool!
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Im sorry you guys who really like green day and good charlett and all those other band but they suck. I used to be a fan of green day but now theyre in those little crappy girl magazines and not rocking nearly as good as in Dookie Sorry
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Album Rating: 3.5 | Sound Off
[quote=cool guy91]HE cant write music[/quote]
And the award for Most Inaccurate Screenname goes to...
[quote=DuPDea0164]Im sorry you guys who really like green day and good charlett and all those other band but they suck. I used to be a fan of green day but now theyre in those little crappy girl magazines and not rocking nearly as good as in Dookie Sorry[/quote]
Yes, god forbid other people listen to a band you like. Grow a pair, dude. Anyway, I like Green Day, but Good Charlotte can kiss my ass. And on top of that, I'm a dyed-in-the-wool metalhead. So don't pretend to know my tastes.This Message Edited On 04.07.06
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dookie wasnt near as pop-punk though. it had a harder feel to it but it did have its pop moments.
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Album Rating: 4.0 | Sound Off
Im sorry you guys who really like green day and good charlett and all those other band but they suck. I used to be a fan of green day but now theyre in those little crappy girl magazines and not rocking nearly as good as in Dookie Sorry
Rolling Stone is a girl magazine? Or Kerrang? Last Time I checked Green Day have never been in Cosmo. And you used to like them, but then they became big and then you didn't? Some music fan you are. Stop being obsessed with "the scene", because the scene doesn't exist. It's ok to admit: You like Green Day!!! *Gasp!!!*
Don't use Green Day and Good Charlotte in the same sentence. Everyone agrees GC sucks, but Green Day still has talent and a voice.
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Album Rating: 3.5 | Sound Off
Their earlier albums showed more energy and creative ideas. Not that American Idiot is a bad album, it's just not up to par. I'm hoping whatever the release in the next couple years will be more of a return to form.
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Album Rating: 4.0 | Sound Off
American Idiot is poo for bass, but Kerplunk, Insomniac, and Dookie were awesome bass albums. Dirnt's damn good, but Billie's songs prevent his true talent.
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Album Rating: 4.0
this album is awesome, i dont know why almost everybody dislikes it
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Album Rating: 3.5 | Sound Off
Is it Steerpikes job just to come on Sputnik and demolish people? Because if so, thats a pretty kickin' job. What you making?
No, it's just a hobby. I haven't managed to talk the mods into giving me a paycheck and benefits yet. Nevertheless, if you're going to do something, you might as well enjoy it. :cool:
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Album Rating: 2.0
It is obvious Green Day has taken interest in political activism recently, or enough so to write a concept album about it. Such a concerned band... which begs the question as to why they have so suddenly become this way. America has been more or less doing the same thing as now all throughout the 90's. it's called riding the gravy train.
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Album Rating: 1.0
i cant believe this great band went emo and sold out
this album is the terrible
real green day is dookie, not this emo bullshit
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Album Rating: 3.0
Stop talking, you don't know what emo is.. Green Day is not emo, wearing black eyeliner doesn't make you emo..
And Dookie > American Idiot > you
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Album Rating: 3.5 | Sound Off
It is obvious Green Day has taken interest in political activism recently, or enough so to write a concept album about it. Such a concerned band... which begs the question as to why they have so suddenly become this way. America has been more or less doing the same thing as now all throughout the 90's. it's called riding the gravy train.
Wrong again. BJA has always been politically active. He just chose not to write about it before. This is also not a concept album.
i cant believe this great band went emo and sold out
this album is the terrible
real green day is dookie, not this emo bull****
Stop, you're just embarassing yourself. First of all, you have no idea how to properly use the term sell-out.
Second, they're not emom retard. Not only are you completely ignorant of the meaning of sell-out, you're also ignorant of the correct usage of the word emo.
Shut up. You're nothing but an embarassment.This Message Edited On 04.09.06
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1st: green day were 'sellouts' from day one. They're pop punk, emphasis on pop. they were never looking to write ultra meaningful emotional music.
Then technically speaking they couldn't sell out when they never had anything to sell out from! It's not a difficult concept to understand. Why does it elude so many people? Green Day were always pop-punk, and their base remains the same. That's not selling out. Wankers are just angry because the band has the spotlight again for an album that isn't their best.
2nd: green day is copping an emo style. not emo MUSIC, but emo fashion. Mostly goth fashion, but definitely with a hit of emo fashion.
No, no they're not. For one thing, horrorpunk bands have been wearing mascara long before it became fashionable for MTV bands to do so.
For another, putting on black clothes does not automatically make you Goth. That's one of the most ridiculous stereotypes I've ever heard in my life.This Message Edited On 04.09.06
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Album Rating: 3.0
[QUOTE=vheissu]green day were 'sellouts' from day one. They're pop punk, emphasis on pop. they were never looking to write ultra meaningful emotional music. [/QUOTE]
Playing poppy music doesn't automatically make a band 'sell-out'... I am dissapointed that they start to wear that stupid black eyeliner, though..
This Message Edited On 04.09.06
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All of this is peripheral to the fact that Billy Joe is actually quite a talented songwriter, and always has been.
I do agree that their co-opting of certain style and fashion trends is highly annoying. I remember when this first came out, and I first saw the video for the title track, I realised that Billy Joe was wearing clothes that made him look like the frontman of Alkaline Trio (who are excellent, btw).
I took stock of his new image: Mascara? Check. Black shirt and red tie? Check. Black-painted fingernails? Check.
At this point, my brow wrinkled, and the word 'emo-goth' crept to the front of my mind. Now, not in the true sense of those words, the true meaning that we know and that don't conform to the easy definitions fed to us by pop-culture, but in the sense that bands like My Chemical Romance have co-opted them. Shallow goth-wannabe style.
And I think this does qualify as a concept album, being a rock opera with interconnected songs that follow a storyline.
Don't get mad Steerpike, you're my hero. Go easy.
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Album Rating: 2.5
It irritates me how no band nowadays can be in their prime for more than an album, because once the spoken album is released all you little offsprings of satan join the bandwagon and hate the band...........as they've achieved what they wanted to in the first place. to spread a message, leave their mark and make it big. Oh and I swear If I had one of them big boxing gloves on a large extendable arm, you bet "coolguy91"'s face would be receeding inwards by now.
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Album Rating: 3.5 | Sound Off
Green Day have always been a pop-punk band. Pop is short for popular. That means sing-along choruses, memorable hooks, catchy tunes, and accessible lyrics. The band has always played that style. That's not selling out. Selling out is when you abandon all of your integrity just for the sake of money.
That is not to say the desire for success automatically makes you a sell-out. That's bullshit. Music is not going to magically nourish you, chase off your bill collectors, and pay your mortgage.
Just because the term sell-out has been so thoroughly abused by morons who have no idea how to properly use it does not automatically justify any further misuse. The way it is "so often used today" is the wrong way to use it.
On the co-opting of their image, that has less to do with the band's decision, and more to do with the record label. It's similar to Celtic Frost's whole Cold Lake debacle.
And I honestly do not see American Idiot as a concept album. Only a few songs have a coherent storyline. For it to be a concept album, it would have to be one huge story arc from start to finish.This Message Edited On 04.10.06
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Album Rating: 4.0 | Sound Off
This gets funnier and funnier. Noobs come on to dis the band, vets smash them, yet like flies the buggers keep coming back. How about everyone accept that the band hasn't changed at all, they're not emo, they're pop-punk. American Idiot has no emo in it at all. Dookie was better, on that we all agree. They wear make up and tight pants now. SCANDAL! So does Sum 41 and Blink 182, the bands you all seem to love because they're "real punk". Please this incessant arguing is redundant and will never go anywhere.
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I don't feel Green Day has abandoned their musical integrity. Just their personal integrity. Dressing like a fag and pretending to be hardcore lyrical political activists all of a sudden is what gets me. Especially because they never needed to do any of that bull**** to be popular.
Couple of things.
First off, are you familiar with Celtic Frost? I mentioned earlier the whole clusterfuck that was Cold Lake. Fans accused the band of selling out because their label hired two producers with experience in glam, and dresssed the band up like glam rock stars in photo shoots. And all this because Tom Warrior was so burnt out from producing and touring for their previous album, Into the Pandemonium, that he didn't care anymore. He didn't notice this going on right underneath his nose because of the rut he fell into. How do you know Green Day's situation isn't all that dissimilar to Celtic Frost's?
Second, BJA has always been a politically active individual. Not as extreme as, say, Tom Morello, but he did keep up with current events.
Do you know the band personally? Have you talked with them and been able to discern whether or not they actually believe what they're saying? Because you certainly act is if you have.
You say their current image bugs you. Well you know what bugs me? People who immediately rag on a band the instant they demonstrate that musicians are allowed to have personal politics as well.
And besides that, this album is nowhere near as political as people make it out to be. You want political? Buy a Rage Against the Machine album. Buy London Calling. All American Idiot has is a few vague allusions to how BJA doesn't like the administration. Well whoop-dee-shit, neither does 70% of the American public.
The extent of Green Day's political activism is that they played some benefit and relief concerts such as Live 8 and offered up the profits from downloading one of their singles as part of the 2004 tsunami relief. So at least they're doing something with their fame. I may not like Bono of U2 that much, but I'm not going to criticize him for his political activism because at least he's putting time and money into helping people instead of wasting it on Turkish heroin.This Message Edited On 04.10.06
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