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"snox do you have any idea where one might find the original abom tape"

Unless you're a 50 year old dude living in Florida in 86, i doubt you'll ever be able to find it

@egarran: again i don't think just quoting a random retrospective written for some metal blog really validates anything

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i didnt mean the literal physical cassette, just a rip of it

I mean Norwegian black metal was largely propelled entirely by Mayhem and Darkthrone. Mayhem were involved in black metal before Morbid Angel's influence, and Euronymous also took large inspiration from South America. Darkthrone defined the second wave before Mayhem though, and they took all their influence directly from Live In Leipzig, Celtic Frost, and Bathory.

"snox do you have any idea where one might find the original abom tape"

Ah, well unfortunately no I don't know that either. As far as I know the official release by Earache doesn't really change anything though.

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"I mean Norwegian black metal was largely propelled entirely by Mayhem and Darkthrone. Mayhem were involved in black metal before Morbid Angel's influence, and Euronymous also took large inspiration from South America. Darkthrone defined the second wave before Mayhem though, and they took all their influence directly from Live In Leipzig, Celtic Frost, and Bathory."





Correcto

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the tracks seem to be in a different order although neither rym nor discogs list track durations for the original. there may also have been mastering differences.



oh well, cheers

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> just quoting a random retrospective written for some metal blog really validates anything



Does your input hold more weight?



It's seems a clear pattern that this is recognized as playing a part in early black metal.

"the tracks seem to be in a different order although neither rym nor discogs list track durations for the original. there may also have been mastering differences.



oh well, cheers"

I did not know about different track order, but you're right, the mastering could indeed have been different for the initial tape. But yea, sadly, it seems lost to history at this point.

"Does your input hold more weight?



It's seems a clear pattern that this is recognized as playing a part in early black metal."

A little bit, yea. I kinda spent many years studying the history of extreme metal pretty hard. I'm not denying this album doesn't have a small part in black metal's history, but everything it did was done earlier by Morbid Angel, all that Morbid Angel did earlier than this was already done by dozens of bands worldwide, and the very band that truly launched second wave black metal (Darkthrone) was very ANTI death metal by the time they did so, mainly concerned for its production techniques.

So while the statement "Morbid Angel played a part in black metal's history" is correct, "Altars of Madness played a major role in black metal's history" is an exaggeration.

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A grand exaggeration.

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a grand exaggeration of war

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This is more BM that that album.



Not sure why the comparison triggers people so much. Is it tarnishing the proud, tr00 legacy of black metal?

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It's more that it's incorrect.

Maybe one day I'll repost my history of black metal list

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Are you the guy who made an early greek bm list at one point

It sounds like something I would have made but I won't take the credit

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Whoever made it that was one of the better lists I’ve seen posted here

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If you like greek bm get on Thy Darkened Shade - Liber Lucifer ASAP.