True.

Album Rating: 5.0

Production on the remaster is fucking perfect

Album Rating: 4.5

hoes mad

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This is a music discussion site, you expect to just dump your shitty takes and have people clapping like seals?

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lol

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you should hear the music production I make clappin breadofbitchines’s mom’s cheeks.



you may think it sounds like shit but it’s music to my ears

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it's Friday fellas, drink a beer and loosen it up

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smash it across someone’s head after you’re done

The irony of talking about shitty takes, Shuyin, when you said music production isn’t subjective and then doubled down on it. ‘Music discussion’ to you means unfettered praise for bands you love.

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haha you guys are still on that?

It’s ridiculous, I know. Aaron Turner could be posting here right now, telling them why they felt the production on ITAOT was “sterile” (like he’s stated in previous interviews) and Shuyin would be telling him he’s wrong and it isn’t up for discussion.

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you do know that besides saying thin ‘tones’, you literally didn’t say anything else either. ‘weak’ ‘production’ & ‘mixing’



divulge further o “I can discuss more about actual something than shuyin’

Why do I have to elaborate any further than saying the guitar tones sound thin, especially in comparison to their previous two albums? Do you question someone when they say the guitar tones are “perfect”, or are you just trying to be as annoying as possible by stirring the pot and adding absolutely nothing here? Here’s the type of ‘musical discussion’ Shuyin contributes:
“Bro it's not ridiculous, you're just wrong.. jeez. Having bad production and being an imitation isn't something subjective. w/e”
How can you have any type of discussion with someone who is approaching it with the idea that there is a ‘right’ and ‘wrong’ opinion to production or the quality of an album?

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At what point do you stop adding fuel to the fire

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You never elaborated on why they're "imitations with bad tones and shitty production" either, so saying you're wrong is more than enough as a response, but you're acting as if I'm insulting you or something



"the guitar tones sound thin"

wait, what? is your copy of WR broken?

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"when you said music production isn’t subjective and then doubled down on it."

bruv, you wanna talk about double down, read your comments on the last 2 pages. You said a bunch of.. shit.. and now you're only sticking to the "production was bad" argument

You still think music production and ultimately music quality isn’t subjective, though, which is about as ridiculous as it gets.
“The guitar tones and vocals are perfect”
wait, what? is your copy of WR broken? (Yawn)
On the last few pages, I gave you specific examples of how producers who use completely different methods and achieve completely different sounds are still highly regarded, though obviously not universally. You didn’t go near any of that, though, because you knew you didn’t have a leg to stand on with your initial comments. I haven’t just stuck to the production comments at all; I still think their last two albums are average ISIS efforts and were treading water. It’s hardly some fringe view when one of the band members even thinks the same (a number of reviews also said similar). You don’t. The difference being that I haven’t at any point called you ‘objectively wrong’ for claiming that they’re masterpieces or have perfect production.

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"You still think music production and ultimately music quality isn’t subjective"



I NEVER said this, LMAO. You're the one to talk about me being upset when you're the one throwing a hissy fit because I didn't agree with you. Yea, this is my favourite band and I got no problem admitting that whatsoever but I'm obviously going to call you out on your crappy take because.. welcome to the Internet



"I gave you specific examples of how producers who use completely different methods and achieve completely different sounds are still highly regarded"



Because you said the production was bad on their last 2 albums (along with other things that you were wrong about but won't talk about it now for some reason) and you never even explained why you think it's bad. Sure, ITAOT sounds a bit muddy when compared to Panop but its not bad, do you even know what bad production is? Have ou ever listened to St Anger or Vapor Trails? On the other side WR has arguably the best production in the genre, it literarily adds up to the music, so why are you calling it bad. Your enjoying of the sound is one thing but it being bad is another, I even gave you the example of BM bands using bad production because it fits their music. And then you asked me to bring metrics and data and SCIENTIFIC EXPERIMENTS for some fucking reason.. w/e bro



And please stop saying Aaron this and that, Isis was a band. If you only care about his opinion then your take is indeed shit

Album Rating: 5.0

Gimme fuel gimme fire gimmethatwhhifrjjejsiskebsisiksbdh

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anybody wanna refill my bucket of popcorn