Yeah it was on the Leaves album stream on youtube

he seemed to be implying that Leaves was what this was always hyped up to be. IDK if they're similar at all though lol since i haven't jammed / i don't know anything about this genre

Album Rating: 5.0

Both albums feature unparalleled technical instrumentals and do fit in to post hardcore.. the vox arent similar at all. Id jam refused asap now tho some of the best drumming. Sweet overall lp that is only hindered by the fact it copied a lot of ideas from an earlier post hardcore album by the nation of ulysses

Album Rating: 3.5

Complete rip off

Album Rating: 5.0

Eh hard to say that the entire album is. Ulysses never made anything even close to as good as this

Album Rating: 3.5

Even down to the artwork dude. It's blatant.

Album Rating: 5.0

its better

Hmmm I've never heard of Ulysses now i'm intrigued

Album Rating: 5.0

Good band

Album Rating: 3.5

Doesn't it irritate though? Fucking blatant rip off, down to slogans, artwork and tunes but we will forgive 'em because it's better?

The blob has got ya.

Album Rating: 5.0

This album is better so much so my care that it takes ideas from another album is null

Album Rating: 3.5

Every artist in history adapts ideas but this is a straight up blagging

Album Rating: 5.0

Great album agrd

Album Rating: 3.0

smae

Album Rating: 5.0

David sandstrom > your favorite drummer

sandstorm

really funny agreed

My fav drummer is miley cyrus

Album Rating: 3.0

Shes no hugh laurie

Album Rating: 5.0

LETS TAKE THE FIRST BUS OUTTA HERE

"Doesn't it irritate though? Fucking blatant rip off, down to slogans, artwork and tunes but we will forgive 'em because it's better?"

I mean if it's done better then yea it doesn't irritate me and I forgive them as well.