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foucault and deleuze >>>>> derrida

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Foucalt and Nietzsche ive read a little and can respect, i dont know any Derrida or Deleuze



Hegel makes me want to scream and could have benefited from learning how to express himself coherently

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yeah you don't actually read hegel; you read the guides on hegel



same for heidegger

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one of my phil lecturers would always tell this joke about Heidegger when discussing what makes good or bad writing.





Heidegger and a hippo stroll up to the pearly gates and Saint Peter says, listen, we've only got room for one more today. So, whoever of the two of you gives me the best answer to the question: What is the meaning of life? - gets to come in.



And Heidegger says, 'to think being itself explicitly requires disregarding being to the extent that it is only grounded and interpreted in terms of beings and for beings as their ground as in all metaphysics'



But before the hippo can grunt one word, Saint Peter turns to the hippo and says, 'today's your lucky day, come in'

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that reads like one of those "I had a stroke reading this" memes



https://i.imgur.com/twxsYNq_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

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http://www.denisdutton.com/bad_writing.htm





this site is a goldmine for bad academic writing.



'Total presence breaks on the univocal predication of the exterior absolute the absolute existent (of that of which it is not possible to univocally predicate an outside, while the equivocal predication of the outside of the absolute exterior is possible of that of which the reality so predicated is not the reality, viz., of the dark/of the self, the identity of which is not outside the absolute identity of the outside, which is to say that the equivocal predication of identity is possible of the self-identity which is not identity, while identity is univocally predicated of the limit to the darkness, of the limit of the reality of the self). This is the real exteriority of the absolute outside: the reality of the absolutely unconditioned absolute outside univocally predicated of the dark: the light univocally predicated of the darkness: the shining of the light univocally predicated of the limit of the darkness: actuality univocally predicated of the other of self-identity: existence univocally predicated of the absolutely unconditioned other of the self. The precision of the shining of the light breaking the dark is the other-identity of the light. The precision of the absolutely minimum transcendence of the dark is the light itself/the absolutely unconditioned exteriority of existence for the first time/the absolutely facial identity of existence/the proportion of the new creation sans depth/the light itself ex nihilo: the dark itself univocally identified, i.e., not self-identity identity itself equivocally, not the dark itself equivocally, in “self-alienation,” not “self-identity, itself in self-alienation” “released” in and by “otherness,” and “actual other,” “itself,” not the abysmal inversion of the light, the reality of the darkness equivocally, absolute identity equivocally predicated of the self/selfhood equivocally predicated of the dark (the reality of this darkness the other-self-covering of identity which is the identification person-self).'



u wot m8

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reads like schizophrenia



they like the words "equivocal", "predicate", and "identity" a lot lol

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continental doesn't work if you just read extracts

Don’t care

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Don't care [2]

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is that in reference to the horrific above piece or the heidigger





cos yeah i agree but tbh the same is also true of a lot of analytic philosophy. But it doesnt excuse egregious writing

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"http://www.denisdutton.com/bad_writing.htm"



thank you for this gift

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i have no idea what that is trying to say without greater context but generally I think pomo gets a bad rap; its often actually very particular and layered, open-ended



although everyone has their limits and Derrida is mine

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Pomo?

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postmodernism

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yeh it deffo gets a bad wrap. I mean its just another right wing boogeyman at this point

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Liz Truss bringing it up was painful

oh boi, what did she say this time

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'As a comprehensive school student in Leeds in the 1980s, I was struck by the lip service that was paid to equality by the city council while children from disadvantaged backgrounds were let down.



'While we were taught about racism and sexism, there was too little time spent making sure everyone could read and write.



These ideas have their roots in postmodernist philosophy – pioneered by Foucault – that put societal power structures and labels ahead of individuals and their endeavours ...



Rather than promote policies that would have been a game-changer for the disenfranchised, like better education and business opportunities, there was a preference for symbolic gestures.'



Yeah, the city council of Leeds in the 80s must of had a postmodernist background (making them pretty ahead of the curve from what i know)

Pioneered by Foucault