Album Rating: 2.7

Literally lmao.

Trha blended lo-fi hip hop with black metal on a single song during a split, that's innovative but it's still metal + not metal thing.

In conclusion, where the fuck is my tango metal.

Album Rating: 1.0

Oh one new innovation. Crazy. And 20 years ago. Interesting. How many did I say again? I lost count.

I know you can't count because you didn't list any

Album Rating: 1.0

Blackgaze is just bm with shoegaze bro lmao

It's been like three messages back and forth and you've already lost sight of the original point. I ain't even medicated for my ADHD man I think you need to get some.

Nice review, Hawks. Might check this out, Poppy sounded great in End of You, made me want to give her material a try sometime.

Also lmao the salt is still here, I see.

Album Rating: 1.0

I listed multiple legitimate innovations in djent in the past 10 years already in the previous page. What are you even on about. And oh yeah I forgot one. Berried Alive. Another completely unique style. Blending djent with trap beats into something once again never done before.

If you can ignore legitimate innovations in extreme metal I can ignore your innovations in djent. Also none of this is disproving guitar music isn't solved.

Innovation does not solely make music good

Album Rating: 1.0

What is your innovations in extreme metal. Blackgaze? By your logic, that's not innovation due to your predetermined parameters. What else.

I don't know, I wasn't set on innovations in the first place. I'm not letting you take the wheel of this argument you can't drive.

Album Rating: 1.0

"Innovation does not solely make music good"

Ok then. Let's stagnate eternally then. How was that Revocation album from last year huh? Pretty rad. I love how they never try anything new. Like an ouroboros, stuck in a constant loop for eternity.

I've never listened to Revocation in my life but I think it's genre dependent. I'm not listening to hardcore punk bands to reinvent the wheel. I want pissed music thats relevant to the world today and riffs ahrd

Notice how the Tundra conveniently ignores any stated evidence that may undermine his ill-informed presumptions

Imagine if some new classical composer came around and started scoring banger after banger. Tundra would cross his arms before loudly yawning. Orchestrated ensembles? Been done already!

Album Rating: 1.0

pyro you speak in riddles like johnnyofthewell did. I said that djent has innovated many times in the past 10 years. Bm only has blackgaze and that was 20 years ago. Nothing more to be said in this discussion buddy.

It's kind of a basic intelligence test to see if you can read. Since (assuming no page break), there's something I explicitly mentioned as an example that goes against what you're claiming so you can't mention it.

Album Rating: 1.0

"Imagine if some new classical composer came around and started scoring banger after banger. Tundra would cross his arms before loudly yawning. Orchestrated ensembles? Been done already!"

Yes, I believe in innovation. I want to see the next step for video game graphical innovation. I don't want to be playing Uncharted 1 forever. I want to progress forward.

I got bad news for you there, video game graphics are also solved. Not only that, but the peak has already been reached. Development time is too long and the talent bleed is too real. It'll only get worse.