Taylor Swift Midnights
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Mort.
October 26th 2022


26405 Comments


'whereas the solution for being overweight is very simple'

i dont particularly want to get embroiled in this discussion but this is only true depending on how you conceive of the problem. yes, the solution to being overweight is simple in terms of it being related to calorific intake/excercise. no, the solution to being overweight is not simple in terms of said calorific intake/amount of excercise being linked to economic situation, mental health, other underlying health issues, the fact that excercise becomes harder for clinically obese people to even engage in etc

sorry if ive misunderstood your comments at all

Mort.
October 26th 2022


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'whereas the solution for being overweight is very simple, it's just difficult for a lot of people'

actually i see now that your comment about it being difficult for a lot of people basically implies what i just stated, woops sorry

Colton
October 26th 2022


16757 Comments


yeah I agree with that mort, it's simple but not easy. if it were easy, nobody would struggle with it. but it's still so important for people, especially kids, to understand that they have the power to change, fuck anyone who tells you you can't or that you shouldn't

and yeah I can agree with that joe. I just don't see how that's Taylor's responsibility. like when Tyler The Creator says "I ain't never had anxiety, I just go" on his new album I'm sure you wouldn't tell him that it's insensitive for him to flex not having anxiety when so many people do right?

HelloJoe
October 26th 2022


1097 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

No, I wouldn't take offense but I don't see it as similar?



I more see this situation as Taylor's struggle with body image has, as a result, upset others with their own body image issues.



Whereas that Tyler example is like... Tyler not having anxiety issues is not a negative comment on my anxiety issues.

vult
October 26th 2022


3430 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

Wow this thread went places while I was eating dinner

Colton
October 26th 2022


16757 Comments


they are different you're right. but I don't think it's that much of a stretch to imagine people saying that he's implying having anxiety is a bad thing and therefore shouldn't say it. my point is just that musical artists are always gonna express their own thoughts and it has nothing to do with anyone else, unless they're straight up inciting hatred or something I don't see why anyone cares

Kompys2000
October 26th 2022


9483 Comments


Don't want to get into the weeds on a topic I'm not educated about but, to your point about how dare these people insinuate any connection to xeno/homo/transphobia, were you aware many clinics require patients to have a BMI under 30 to schedule gender-affirming surgery? I wasn't until recently! Pretty fucked up if you ask me!

Kompys2000
October 26th 2022


9483 Comments


that Tyler tweet about how cyberbullying is fake is an all-timer

Colton
October 26th 2022


16757 Comments


hmm I'd have to know more details. is that just because the surgery is riskier for overweight people?

and lol yeah iconic tweet

HelloJoe
October 26th 2022


1097 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

I think in this case, it's a situation of her unintentionally upsetting people in expressing herself. Like you said, she isn't responsible for anyone else's emotions. It is entirely up to her whether she takes accountability for how her art impacts on others. Some people would just say "screw that" while others might reply "oh shoot! I didn't meant it that way"... in simpler terms.



I think in this situation, it's hard for me to relate because I know there are people who are comfortable in their larger weight. I don't know anyone who willingly wants to enjoy their generalised anxiety. So it's not like with the Tyler thing that it's something to be upset about. Like, nobody with GAD willingly wants to live with GAD.

vult
October 26th 2022


3430 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

Yes surgery is much riskier when you are overweight. 30% BMI is quite high, your heart is more sensitive to anesthetic and you have a much higher risk of aneurysm during surgery. It makes sense.

HelloJoe
October 26th 2022


1097 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

Genuinely never knew that about gender affirming care and weight.

Colton
October 26th 2022


16757 Comments


yeah I don't see how that relates to fatphobia or transphobia at all. that's just like, making sure people don't die during surgery

Kompys2000
October 26th 2022


9483 Comments


Whether 30 BMI is healthy or unhealthy is very much a matter of who you're asking and why you're asking them- Almost like these things are better evaluated on a case-by-case basis than by literally just using a person's weight and height!

Colton
October 26th 2022


16757 Comments


BMI of 30 is objectively unhealthy dude. straight up anti-science to say otherwise. yeah you can say "not every obese person has health problems" just like my buddy can say his uncle smoked a pack a day and lived until he was 90. doesn't mean smoking isn't bad for you

HelloJoe
October 26th 2022


1097 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

Do you like the album, Kompy the Paddington Scarecrow?

AmericanFlagAsh
October 26th 2022


13689 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5 | Sound Off

I, for once, agree with Johnny on something that’s not Yeule

Colton
October 26th 2022


16757 Comments


johnny's probably mad I said I used to be obese but am now in good shape because it means I'm not actively killing myself like he's always telling me to do

Kompys2000
October 26th 2022


9483 Comments


@hellojoe both of the singles I've heard have been pretty mixed bags! Not in any rush to get to the deep cuts

HelloJoe
October 26th 2022


1097 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

Ah yeah. I'm not sure the other songs would persuade you. Maybe I'm wrong but I certainly felt they were all much on the same level.



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