Album Rating: 4.0

“Pyrrhon seems closer, so I should re-check that band as I didn’t really enjoy them the first time around… although there is overlap it’s surprising how many people like one and not the other (like me).”



Yeah I’ve noticed that as well and I still kinda baffling to me, they have a lot of similarities, both musically and conceptually. I’ve def said this before but I maintain that Alphaville and Abscess Time would make a killer double album

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

Phyrrron is more all over the place in terms of vibe for its own better or worse.

Album Rating: 5.0

"Have you seen Irreversible? That movie is ugly and disturbing af. One of the best I've seen tho."

Nice analogy, Gaspar Noé is a genius, and a french genius at that, like DsO. You can definitely use ugliness and decadence as an inspiration to make art, and I'm not talking about that horrendous and pretentious post-modern art, I'm talking about carefully crafted masterwork. It's undeniable these guys are great musicians, both technically and composition-wise (I would say visually too). I hear more DsO, Portal and Pyrrhon in here than Atheist but I could see some Elements in IT. Call me crazy but I hear a lot of Voivod in this album too

I just realized i was thinking of DSO with the question of programmed drums a couple of pages ago, not IT. Duh. Hopefully it doesnt affect my metal cred score.

Album Rating: 4.0

“Phyrrron definitely has highlights but it always feels like a mess at the end to me. This may be repulsive, but damn if it isn't cohesive.”



Hard disagree. I find Pyrrhon to be one of the most cohesive dm bands around. Most dissodeath I find to be very cohesive, I feel like in order to be submerged in dissonance for long periods of time bands try to justify it in some way. I would be fine with just skronk riffs but the added thematic background makes it a lot tastier.



Some like their dissonance to hide something more approachable, others want a marathon, and boy have I been running.

Album Rating: 4.0

Another absolute beauty as is their standard and has been for years.

Absolute beauty of a thread

Album Rating: 4.0

As has been sputniks standards for years

"Phyrrron definitely has highlights but it always feels like a mess at the end to me. This may be repulsive, but damn if it isn't cohesive."

Pyrrhon is quite a different beast, but both bands are cohesive in their very own way. That being said, I find this way more easier to listen to.

Album Rating: 2.5

Irreversiblé is wild but i’d recommend watching Gaspar Noe’s Climax first for those curious, it isn’t as disturbing and is more accessible and just an overall better movie imo

And Pyrrhon is more fun to listen to than these guys

Album Rating: 1.5

"You seem to be misunderstanding an important fact here, people ARE enjoying listening to this, no-one’s pretending, lol"

That's what I can't wrap my head around. There are probably people out there that GENUINELY enjoy this, but I think a LOT of people are pretending. We have a modern illogical infatuation with embracing things simply because they're "unique", instead of whether or not we ACTUALLY enjoy them. Just my two cents.

Album Rating: 3.5

Your two cents are genuinely appreciated. Are people perhaps posturing? It's always a possibility with any album that takes a bold artistic direction. How many people actually like classic albums and instead like them to appear 'in' on something?



I'd contend that there is plenty to enjoy here, and this is more of an issue of this not being your aesthetic than it being poorly made. It diverges from melodic passages, true, and rather hinges its songwriting on a mounting dissonance that builds off of unconventional guitar riffs. To make something like that with such a leaning towards jazz takes a lot of high-quality musicianship lest the entire thing fall apart. Their tracks are pretty tightly composed, which is where I find the beauty/enjoyment: they play on the line between the brutality of pure, ugly reality and incredibly technical musicianship. How it is all held together, and how mind-bending it sounds, is very compelling.



To your point, I believe the last Mamaleek (spelling?) record is where I feel the 'ugliness for the sake of ugliness' goes too far and breaks immersion. For the most part, ImpTri work within a sphere where their different genre conventions make sense, whereas Mamaleek just clashed things together to see what could happen, execution be damned.

Album Rating: 3.5

That feel when your phone automatically capitalizes Immersion because I talk about Noise Trail Immersion too much.

Album Rating: 4.5

This was an excellent review. I'm in the middle of listening to this monster and I'm blown away by the musicianship of this band.

"How many people actually like classic albums and instead like them to appear 'in' on something?"

Yeah this is something I always suspect. We're on a site where people are frequently trying to out-snark and out-edge each other but they all happen to arrive at the same opinion regarding The Beatles? Not sure about that one.

As for this album/band: they can be abrasive sure, but considering the stuff that gets praised on Sput, drawing the line of plausible enjoyability at a dissodeath band with big band elements is a little odd imo.

Album Rating: 4.5

This fucking band, man.

Album Rating: 3.5

Oh for sure. Having an album labeled "classic" to begin with gives it a sort of prestige that can influence perception. That's just how the cookie crumbles sometimes.



I might prefer the new Wake to this, but they're both entirely different beasts and I'm gonna need to check both out a few times.

Album Rating: 1.5

Alot of people will rate this extremely high just Because its different. Its unique and theres alot of skill involved in the record. But they won't ever listen to it more than 2 or 3 times lol.

Album Rating: 3.5

Once again, potentially true, but I've revisited Alphaville quite a lot and will likely listen to this more as well. I don't think it's so inconceivable for people to enjoy a death metal album that flaunts a bit more dissonance than the norm.



And in fairness to the 'unique' argument: considering how much music there is out there currently, and how much there has been before, is it not respectable/commendable that a band managed to carve out a fairly special niche? It shouldn't be the entire basis for why something is enjoyable, but it's worth *some* points I'd contend.

"but they all happen to arrive at the same opinion regarding The Beatles"

someone has very clearly never been in a Beatles thread