Archspire Bleed the Future
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Frost15
November 3rd 2021


4641 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

"No probs, just quoting what a wise man said in another thread." Ouch!

Anthracks
November 3rd 2021


8407 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Obviously

dedex
Emeritus
November 3rd 2021


13008 Comments

Album Rating: 3.7 | Sound Off

wah this is cray-cray shit

Hyperion1001
Emeritus
November 3rd 2021


29719 Comments


> I think given the fact that classical music is the foundation of any and all modern music

completely and utterly disagree with this take. “classical” music, if we take the definition to mean “the formal tradition of western music” has far less influence on modern day popular music than western folk music and pan-African composition techniques. every single one of our hyper-popular contemporary music genres drawn on rhythmic techniques derived from African traditions and, regionally, pulls influences from folk traditions far more than any “classical” techniques.

in fact, I would argue that classical stopped being influential with the modernist period, and those other influences took over almost completely.

this is also an extremely problematic take because it completely ignores any music traditions that did not originate from white, western societies.

bloc
November 3rd 2021


70880 Comments


"Always enjoyed the one guitarist's youtube channel"

Agreed, love Dean's channel

Anthracks
November 3rd 2021


8407 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

okay with the thesis.



i did not say classical music is the only foundation or ingredient or influence to modern music, but that modern music would not exist if things were not built by influences from or influences away from what came before, regardless of where it derived. to imply that the techniques, harmonies, melodies, song forms, etc, of today are not influenced by classical is to me absurd. most of these musicians are learning these classical forms as well as all the others as they are learning their instrument, whether directly from a mentor, or being "self-taught" from the music they listen to.



the subject in the thread to that point was not pan-african composition or western folk music, so naturally they were not addressed. the original question was, why would someone tag this classical?



there is no cancerous un-woke assertion that modern music is not a huge mix of all that came before, some more than others, it simply isn't what was being discussed until introduced just now. we would be having a similar discussion if this was tagged 'jazz' and someone asked 'why is this tagged jazz?' but it's not

SteakByrnes
November 3rd 2021


31061 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

who cares tbh just jam the fast noodles

Anthracks
November 3rd 2021


8407 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

I typically try to do that

Frost15
November 3rd 2021


4641 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

Yeah, in the end it doesn't really matter but it makes for an interesting debate. I still don't know which is my fav track here... I can't decide between A.U.M, Drain of Incarnation, Drone Corpse Aviator... fuck it man every track rules.

Kole
November 3rd 2021


395 Comments


The vocals could be a lot better.

DDDeftoneDDD
November 3rd 2021


23540 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0 | Sound Off

You can dislike them, but they couldn t be any better tbh

mechamagica
November 3rd 2021


656 Comments


i mean the guy is pretty impressive. it's hard not to find it a little funny i guess

Anthracks
November 3rd 2021


8407 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

I think he’s aware of the humor in his vocal style. He refers to his mouth as his “cocksucker,” which denotes there isn’t much he takes seriously

mechamagica
November 3rd 2021


656 Comments


respectable

DDDeftoneDDD
November 3rd 2021


23540 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0 | Sound Off

Impressive how the vocals sync with the fast riffs

bloc
November 3rd 2021


70880 Comments


He's a human machine gun

Dmax28
November 3rd 2021


1454 Comments


Hmm honestly overall I've found Relentless Mutation more memorable than this. There seems to be more emphasis on hooks and pacing on that one rather than pure faceblasting. But Golden Mouth, Bleed the Future, Drain and Acrid are great additions to the discog.

arf
November 3rd 2021


494 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

>Archpsire melodies have many things in common with some classical symphonies and concertos for string instruments.

I'm not exactly sure if I can agree with this reasoning (large part of power metal has songs based on hooks, does that mean they should be tagged as pop?) but yeah I have to agree, I certainly hear Beethoven worship (especially in the fast arpeggios lol)

DDDeftoneDDD
November 3rd 2021


23540 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0 | Sound Off

I had to be really in the mood and 3rd spin or so to find them both equally good

Dmax28
November 3rd 2021


1454 Comments


Beethoven came right to mind at some points yea



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