he gon
Rolo Tomassi early stuff holds up fine, wouldn't say Trophy Scars were that weak compared to other stuff in the scene either
ISIS is a bad shout and implies Celestial is their worst album. Coltrane also a weird pick - had found his feet in Miles' quintet and v quickly hit his stride as a bandleader on Blue Train

Album Rating: 4.5

Not sure I'm seeing the Converge/ETID one. Most of their early stuff is pretty except their first LP/EP respectively. Both bands had hardly developed their sounds by that point as well

Album Rating: 5.0

doesn’t matter compared to what scene, just whether it’s worth hearing over their better material as a first dip

No way should you start ISIS with Celestial

early Rolo is pretty patchy tbh, the signs were there but it took time

Coltrane was admittedly an assumption I personally have no ref for. Blue Train is great, but I can’t imagine many people sitting through the rest of those albums before hitting Giant Steps (his discog is so vast, chrono seems crazy to me)

Album Rating: 5.0

Talk Talk is definitely a good one, try arguing against that suckers

maybe someone's touched on this already but i always found this kind of interesting:

Debut / Pablo Honey (1993): the solid albeit kinda dated/misfitting debut from which each artist would branch out significantly
Post / The Bends (1995): huge step up in both quality and identity
Homogenic / OK Computer (1997): what's usually regarded as the "masterpiece," both considered one of the best albums of the 90s
Vespertine / Kid A (2000/2001): a follow-up to the "masterpiece" by a sudden unexpected turn into bold experimentalism

kind of uncanny, right?

Album Rating: 5.0

I’m not completely sold on the overall comparison here. Outside of seeing The Bends alongside Post (eww!) is this really a bold reinvention? - it’s more like a subtle refinement for me. Addition by subtraction type of deal, almost

each artist did incrementally up the overall quality of their output tho

The Bends being put on par with Post quality-wise defs gives me the ick, but ngl I do see it

"is this really a bold reinvention? - it’s more like a subtle refinement for me"

interesting, i always saw this as pretty bold compared to Homogenic. i think we can agree there's a lot of new techniques being used at least

and why so hard on The Bends? it's a bit dated now and has its moments of goopiness but it's got some classics too. i just think it's similar to Post in that both showed each artist beginning to carve their own unique niche instead of riding on what was popular at the time

Album Rating: 5.0

lol I wonder who that could have been tect? 🤔

admittedly I would’ve done the same for saying such nonsense, but I lack the authority unfortunately

loudest farts of the year itt damn

Album Rating: 4.5

Debut clears Pablo Honey



And Post is better than The Bends



Not a fan of the comparison

Album Rating: 4.5

Melt-Banana is very fun and enjoyable

lmfao we'll talk about hitting new levels when those returns start diminishing. ngl did not expect this much traction, but we move

Album Rating: 4.5

I'm sorry you saw that

I'm sorry he did it

An echo

A stain

A stain



Time to undo

It's not up to you
Well
It never really was

Album Rating: 5.0

Now I have been slightly shy

And I can smell a pinch of hope

To almost have allowed one's fingers, to stroke

The fingers I was given to touch with

to be clear i didn't so much mean that the quality of the albums were similar (even though personally i kinda think they are) as that the albums occupy similar places in each artist's discography, and are even in step with the years they came out. anyway, the convo yall were having before was more interesting lol. thank you all for your thoughts on my zany comparison.

as for bands that took a long time to get good, I'd definitely throw The Flaming Lips in there

i got my own spot and i got my own key so can't no bitch talk shit to me

Album Rating: 5.0

^ my favorite Bjork lyric

Drifter be driftin