Bear in mind I didnt bring this up to be a comparison between the two in any shape or form, it was a complete digression of interest, topic just being reception of artists who have done fucked up shit and gets sput all stirred up. Another example being Jesse Lacey.
Comparing the crimes of gg and varg was never on the table. Just curious why gg seems to avoid all the drama.

Also those allegations should be taken with a grain of salt because he purported them himself. But lots of audience members claim theyve seen him sexually assault men and women at his shows and some claim you can find vids but I personally havent seen any evidence.

Either way, his misogyny was hardly a cute look

I get that but I do feel like the context between GG and any artist who stirrs up drama more frequently on music sites is why he doesnt get as much controversy from places like here. I was just using Varg as a reference point because hes the most relevant to this thread and probably the best example you could give anyways. GG is reprehensible but context can greatly affect how anyone emotional feels about something.

what in the buttfuck are you two talking about

Also prob helps that GG is dead and died long before abusers were starting to get called out more frequently.

I dunno I wouldn't say his allegations and acts deserve any less malign than jesse lacey or dude from as I lay dying controversies and those both have had big 40 bajillion page thread blow outs on here as well

"Also prob helps that GG is dead and died long before abusers were starting to get called out more frequently"

Very true

The closest to allegations ive heard is how during stage shows hed shove his "area" into the audience which was something that was considered to be part of his stage antics. But if hes actually commited rape then yeah thats really bad and I dont approve of his mysogyny either. I dont approve of anything hes done for that matter.

If you google it theres stories all over various threads and such, to varying degrees of severity, but it is all anecdotal. There are also stories of him fucking a dog on stage so that's... fun. We'll never know the truth about a lot of these controversies tho, I mean I still dont even know what the fuck to think about MJ.

well in the case of mj i don’t recall in his discog music which either was a blatant reference to or purporting of the subject matter of his allegations so honestly i just try to enjoy the music for what it is

I highly doubt he fucked a dog on stage. Like I said earlier he was known for being a chronic liar to the mainstream media just to piss them off and shock them. I dont think we will know the truth about most of his controversies but im pretty sure the dog thing is more likely to be a rumor that got spread around.

Apparently his 1989 sentence was for cuffing a woman for days and torturing her, burning her, cutting her, drinking her blood... he claimed it was consensual but the state disagreed

I agree about the dog lol

Now I'm reading he dated a lot of underage girls while he was well into his 30s

I actually forgot about that 1989 sentence. They actually apparently did that to each other and he brought up inconsistensies in the womans story which the judge agreed with but still sentenced him regardless.

Fuck it I'm gonna watch that documentary about him

Boy this thread sure went places since I left it last night

Anyway so Varg's a nazi, killing nazis is cool, being radically mean to nazis is cool, GG Allin kinda sucks, and yeah pots is pretty on point with his discussions about separating the art from the artist

Like I'm not gonna listen to an artist I know is evil but if I love an artist and theyre outed as evil afterwards i'm not gonna pretend i don't still vibe with the music i love

Album Rating: 2.5

Jumped about 13 pages by my reckoning.

Yeah I still connect with ariana grande even after she licked that donut