Wintersun The Forest Seasons
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Negator
December 10th 2017


1583 Comments


Damn

DarkNoctus
December 10th 2017


12780 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0 | Sound Off

if you hate the mixing/production try out my remaster at least, i like to think i've improved it in terms of dynamics and channel separation, hmu if you want it

Crawl
December 10th 2017


2953 Comments


Could be just me, but aren't the blast beats that open the third track a bit off?

Negator
December 10th 2017


1583 Comments


Only checked out the first song so far but what makes me sad is that it doesnt seem very Vivaldi ian at all

zaruyache
December 10th 2017


28629 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0 | Sound Off

noctus's version is better. Ignore the official mix and only go for the fan mixes.

Deathconscious
December 10th 2017


27893 Comments


It just baffles me how so called professionals can fuck up production so bad.

XfingTheSullen
December 10th 2017


5569 Comments


That's because they need to adjust to their Wintersauna Studio

Deathconscious
December 10th 2017


27893 Comments


Oh yeah thats right, damn, shoulda donated more money.

zaruyache
December 10th 2017


28629 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0 | Sound Off

apparently it doesn't take much to fix the sound, either.

XfingTheSullen
December 11th 2017


5569 Comments


Someone should rub those fan mixes right in Jari's smug face, tee hee

XfingTheSullen
December 11th 2017


5569 Comments


I'm in :D

DarkNoctus
December 11th 2017


12780 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0 | Sound Off

apparently it doesn't take much to fix the sound, either.




jari isn't the best at mixing at the best of times. not only that but the album suffered from the fact there were so many details in the music that will have had jari shouting "i'm sure the listeners can hear this!" but because he was so used to hearing them and his brain was attuned to hearing them through the mix, even with great gear, listeners just can't hear shit - especially in the orchestration/synth. this is why he should have had someone else mix this who had a totally fresh perspective on the mix. as such what we got was a total fucking mess.



for real, when i was listening to each individual bit on its own and i'd hear a detail i didn't notice i'd swap back to the original master and actually try hearing it with the knowledge it's there. it's simply impossible. try it yourself:



https://wintersun.bandcamp.com/album/the-forest-seasons-isolated-tracks



go to 5:41 in the loneliness orchestration track. it's the first time the chorus comes in on that track. listen to all that noodly synth. go back to the song and TRY and hear it. you actually fucking can't, even if you try. there's no fucking point.



and just for the record i fixed this simply with the slightest bit of eq tweaking, i didn't even have to push up the synth in the mix, showing how easily avoidable shit like this



and hell it'd sound even better by having a dude in a studio do it rather than some embittered gay bloke in his bedroom have a shot at it



ugh why does this album make me so angry

zaruyache
December 11th 2017


28629 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0 | Sound Off

oh don't worry silly things like this really bother my anxiety too.

Negator
December 11th 2017


1583 Comments


why did he try and mix it himself instead of just paying a proffessional to do it

mifzal
December 11th 2017


3459 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

^cuz he's too holy now, and likes to taking it from behind

DarkNoctus
January 25th 2018


12780 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0 | Sound Off

why did he try and mix it himself instead of just paying a proffessional to do it




i mean my guess is his perfectionism complex, he thinks only he can get his vision right but no one actually has the guts to tell him that he can't actually pull it off because he's not that good at mixing records

christhjian
January 25th 2018


720 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

Mix is the worst. I saw them live back in September and the songs from this one sounded pretty poor live too. Eternal Darkness I remember being specially awful. Otherwise it was a nice gig

WhoopDatTrick
January 26th 2018


89 Comments


5 it

zaruyache
January 26th 2018


28629 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0 | Sound Off

it's not as bad if you just jam the alt mixes. It's just not that exciting.

swipenet
January 26th 2018


3388 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

If you compare it to the other two albums of course it's bad. On its own it's decent though.



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