“Get him a bib”

Lol

Album Rating: 4.0

It's not just that they're louder, but you can hear way more separation and nuance in Haake's drumming. Toms and bass drums are better separated, hi-hat is more pronounced. Bass fuzz also comes through way more akin to how it sounded on Violent Sleep of Reason.



Personally I haven't noticed the vox being louder but I just assume that's because Jens has always been loud on the mic lol. But for me, the remaster brings out a lot more intricacies that I feel like were buried by a muddier sound on initial release. I mentioned this earlier too but the remaster also comes really close to how this band sounds live.

Album Rating: 3.5

Great remaster bumps this up a bit Still a slightly above average meshuggah album tho. It's enjoyable



The average rating is correct here. Solid album but Everytime I put this on I just think to myself there's nothing here that wasent already done better on pretty much every album before it. It just kinda sorta sounds like meshuggah on autopilot. Lacking the complexity of catch 33 or the speed of dei. The closest I would compare this to is koloss or nothing. More of a groovy straightforward album (by meshuggah standards) But even then both those albums just had better songwriting in general.

Album Rating: 4.5

I’m not opposed of putting it above Nothing tbh. I know a lot of people swear by that record cuz of how long ago it came out and how long nostalgia settled. But this is still a muscular listen, lot of strong songs and good riffs all around. Thing is you can say that about all their albums and an average meshuggah record still destroys their peers and offsprings.

Album Rating: 4.5

catch 33 is more technical than nothing but not techincal that the other albums after



and to ask them to be DEI/Chaosphere fast is unfair. pray you can be as healthy as they are at their age.

Album Rating: 4.0

This is a band that I feel like you can separate into stages or eras and develop a preference for a particular Meshuggah era. I think the current era really started around Koloss (maaaaybe with Obzen) where their stuff got slower and there was a focus on a heavier sound (probably also a transition from 7-string to 8-string around that time too). So it's easy to see why people are in separate camps regarding ranking Meshuggah; you're really ranking very distinct eras of their music in a lot of ways.

Album Rating: 4.5

Good points gentlemen

Album Rating: 4.5

It def started with obZen and they did 8 strings after Nothing

Album Rating: 4.5

demo-CC era

None-DEI-era

Chaosphere-Rare Trax era

Nothing-I-Catch 33 era

obZen-current era

Album Rating: 4.0

Obzen really is a great intersection of "new" Meshuggah and old Meshuggah. Also, thanks for the clarification regarding their move to 8-string, Relinquished!

Album Rating: 4.5

Yeah exactly, I split it apart from Catch cuz after they went to real drums and less programming

Album Rating: 4.0

I think if there are any albums that mark a distinct departure or evolution in their sound it was definitely the transition from Catch to Obzen. Most of the other "eras" were more gradual. I say that as someone who really only listened to Meshuggah from Chaosphere onwards so anything pre-Chaosphere I'm not as well-versed on. I still listen to Nothing and DEI from time to time, but they don't hit for me like the later albums do.

Album Rating: 4.5

obZen sounds like they brought back the thrash metal aspect with a doom touch to it, def different with how rhythmic based the prior two records were

Album Rating: 3.5

Guitars in remaster sound better, but the cymbals could have better and livelier sound, preferably akin Catch 33



"God He Sees In Mirrors" fuckin' rips.

Album Rating: 4.0

i think light the shortening fuse got the biggest glow up on the remaster

i just tried and it turns out you can mute it smh

Album Rating: 4.5

Oh! Must have been a glitch in the matrix Hyp...



In other news: how good is Phantoms?

Album Rating: 4.0

I don't feel like Phantoms changed too much other than, I think, the bass cuts through a little more.

Album Rating: 4.0

Saw them twice on this tour, 0 regrets haha.

Album Rating: 4.0

me too, trying to make it 3. anyone going to the NY show next week?