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TheSonomaDude
October 25th 2015


10105 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

"Motley Crue and Slayer are both 80s metal. Louis Armstrong and Ornette Coleman are both jazz."



Yah but they are different subgenres of metal. AIC, Nirvana, and Pearl Jam are all squeezed into the same subgenre.

danielcardoso
October 25th 2015


11770 Comments


In my opinion, Pearl Jam incorporated some more variety into the sound they had, but I wouldn't call it a classic rock influence exactly. There were traces of that, but there was also a trace of punk and indie here and there. It's harder to pin down the sound of theirs exactly than Alice In Chains or Nirvana, or Soundgarden for that matter, but it's just tags anyway and it doesn't even matter much.

Friday13th
October 25th 2015


7624 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Pearl Jam does have metal influence though check "Go." Probably just ripped off Soundgarden but it's there :]

danielcardoso
October 25th 2015


11770 Comments


Yeah, no doubt. Besides, you had hardcore in "Blood", punk in "Lukin" or "Spin The Black Circle" or "Porch", and a lot of eclectic, artsy experimental stuff that sounded really fucking awesome going on in Vitalogy.

TheSonomaDude
October 25th 2015


10105 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

"Go" never struck me as metal

DoofusWainwright
October 25th 2015


19991 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Grunge was more about a scene and movement than the music as such. The thing I'd say though is all these bands had very different lyrics to your Motley Crues and Guns N Roses and that was a big change.



I suppose when you add all the other less well known bands then the spread of styles merge more and it makes more sense. If grunge had broken in 2015 a load of sub genres below would be defined under the sub genre of grunge for absolutely no good reason...

Cygnatti
October 25th 2015


36399 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

Well it would of grunge lasted longer. The change in ethos that grunge spurred will never die, but musically its most enduring aspect is post-grunge, which is just terrible music.

DoofusWainwright
October 25th 2015


19991 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Cyg, that and the fact nearly every 'grunge' band minus Nirvana is still releasing albums. Most sound pretty similar to before but are now considered just 'rock' in most cases, says everything about genre labels really. Largely pointless.

Cygnatti
October 25th 2015


36399 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

True enough. Extensive genre Classification can be superfluous and redunant but i believe it all serves many purposes.



On a side note, we seem to be having a whole crop of new genres/movements these days. Much like in the 90s (trip hop, rap rock, alt metal, neopsych, shoegaze, funk metal, dm, bm, prog metal, etc etc) music is changing quickly but not in a way that's familiar to many of us. Whereas rock was once again tge forefront of musical progression back then, this time its electronic music. So many different sounds and ideas. to the untrained or uninterested ear, it'd all sound the same but no, it seems that is were the present lies. Countless pop artists have seem to noticed this as well.

MyNameIsPencil
October 25th 2015


6666 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

I still wonder what Cobain would be doing if he were still alive. I can pretty say pretty confidently that Nirvana would still have broken up and Grohl would have gone and done his own thing down the road though.



I like to think Cobain would have either retired from music entirely and like open a comic shop in Nevada or something or form another band and purposely make music that was very "non-mainstream" friendly on purpose. Like a Noise Rock band very akin to Bleach era Nirvana

Supercoolguy64
October 25th 2015


12007 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

i remember reading an interview somewhere with the guy from REM (who was friends with cobain) and he mentioned how cobain began to write these really quiet, low-key songs before he killed himself

DoofusWainwright
October 25th 2015


19991 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Cyg I think we're in a place of near total cross pollination stagnation, I'm not shocked if two or three previously completely unrelated genres mix anymore. Not saying this is bad but that is the only trend I can really detect right now as some sort of movement. I think this is reflected by the fact people talk about 'production' being so important with every release nowadays, back in the day who the fuck cared about the production on your average rock or folk album.

danielcardoso
October 25th 2015


11770 Comments


Yes it's true, Kurt and Michael Stipe were recording a bunch of songs together, Stipe was a great friend of Kurt's and was trying to help him get back on his feet as his depression was developing. A damn shame they couldn't finish whatever they were up to, I'm sure it would've been amazing.

MyNameIsPencil
October 25th 2015


6666 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

I actually recall hearing about that, probably would have been like Carissa's Wierd level depressing

TheSonomaDude
October 25th 2015


10105 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

It's all emo

claygurnz
November 27th 2015


7800 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

If Be Here Now by Oasis is Cocaine set to music, then surely this is Heroin set to music.

EvoHavok
November 27th 2015


8096 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

This is a lot of drugs heh.

danielcardoso
November 27th 2015


11770 Comments


One of my favorite albums.

romulanrancor
November 27th 2015


7575 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

lol i used to have this album at 3.5 wtf

danielcardoso
November 27th 2015


11770 Comments


It looks a little better now but still needs a push forward if you ask me.



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