Album Rating: 5.0

shut up

Album Rating: 4.5

We have to figure out if this is a Deftones rip-off or not before we can discuss the record, dems the rules



As much as I like this record, it does disappoint me that most of the bands embracing 90s alt metal start and stop at Deftones, I feel like there’s more you can do with that genre

Album Rating: 4.5

not saying ignore it, I'm just saying this is a Fleshwater album

Album Rating: 4.0

im fine with bands ripping off deftones sound if they do the sound better than deftones



and i prob prefer this to like 2/3s of their discog

Album Rating: 4.5

Fucking owned Jesus christ steak let the poor guy live

Album Rating: 3.0

Ye I know it's been beaten to death here as I can tell just by looking at a couple pages of comments, but this really is poor man's Deftones. Whereas Deftones has some songs that make you go "wow", this was just a nice soundscape with no songs really jumping out that much. Both vocalists are good but not excellent (certainly not chino-level). As others have mentioned, the pacing is great. Definitely liked that.



They need to work on making some more interesting riffs/ideas, they have the foundation already there to be incredible if they work on that

Album Rating: 2.5

Nothing triggers the Sputnik metalcore community more than “this sounds like deftones” hahaha.



I definitely hear more than just that, as relinquished has pointed out lots of times itt, but to imply that influence isn’t there is just hilarious

Album Rating: 5.0

Did anyone figure out what the audio sample is in The Razor’s Apple and Kiss The Ladder?

backstairs breathing might have my favourite moment on this album but it feels incomplete as a song

I want someone who thinks this is a Deftones ripoff to transcribe any track off this as well as a Deftones song, and then explain in the context of those transcriptions how it's a ripoff. A song can't be a ripoff for sounding superficially/aesthetically similar when the notes-on-the-page songwriting is different.

This sounds like Deftones sometimes, but it also sounds unlike Deftones a lot of the time. It's also really fucking good. Better than at least half of Deftones' catalog.

Album Rating: 4.0

johnny with the deftones phd



cite the motherfuckin similarities

Album Rating: 4.0

speaking of weak pitches walk to first cuz that still didn’t hit for the 3rd time you tried to compare

Album Rating: 4.0

it’s pretty embarrassing at this point fr

Album Rating: 4.0

god i love starflyer 69

Album Rating: 4.0

u ever sit in a park on a sunny cold day brown bagging an OE after a messy breakup?



https://youtu.be/ii-RW0w8IAk

Album Rating: 3.5

deftones

Album Rating: 3.5

https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/fleshwater/were-not-here-to-be-loved/



rym says







deftones?

Album Rating: 3.5

actually think i might be able to amuse myself for the rest of my whole time on sput by just popping in here and saying 'deftones'



ive heard one deftones album

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

Similarities:

Both shoegaze, hazy guitars

Slow paced songs and same groove

Both have a bird on their album

Differences:

Fleshwater mostly has Mirsy doing the vocals, and she's higher-pitched

WNHTBL has faster paced songs and a much different aesthetic

Deftones older stuff sounds a bit more grungy and has some Jane's Addiction style shouts

Fleshwater sounds like they have more effects in their guitars

“ ive heard one deftones album”

Not worth it to listen to more, in my opinininion. The band would be so much better with a different singer, one who didn’t sing like a pervert with a collapsed lung and hairy palms.

L.D. 50 should’ve been the one to be the big influence