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you see it's tagged "classical" due to several metalheads who listened to niccolo paganini once and now think that if you play fast arpeggios that's a classical; the faster the arpeggios the classicaler it is

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Except the most neo-classical parts here are mainly the slower parts. Drain Of Incarnation first minute is the best example. The scale choice, the way it's harmonized, notes repetitions etc... if it's not classical influenced I don't know what it is.

The band members themselves said it in several interviews.

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yeah but who cares when you can just be smug on the internet instead

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Huge fan of classical music here, not just Paganini haha. I confirm Archspire are heavily classical influenced. Luca Turilli would mix very well with them for sure lol

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Yeah nah not hearing it in Drain of Incarnation intro. Classical guitar tends to be built more around strumming low strings to create a basso continuo with melody and flourishes plucked above that. There's also too much repetition of short note sequences; in classical those tend to be avoided unless you change something a little (often you encounter same pattern moving up or down a scale/chord though)

Neoclassicism in music was a twentieth-century trend, particularly current in the interwar period, in which composers sought to return to aesthetic precepts associated with the broadly defined concept of "classicism", namely order, balance, clarity, economy, and emotional restraint. As such, neoclassicism was a reaction against the unrestrained emotionalism and perceived formlessness of late Romanticism, as well as a "call to order" after the experimental ferment of the first two decades of the twentieth century. The neoclassical impulse found its expression in such features as the use of pared-down performing forces, an emphasis on rhythm and on contrapuntal texture, an updated or expanded tonal harmony, and a concentration on absolute music as opposed to Romantic program music.

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Being classical influenced doesn't mean you replicate classical structures exactly the same with metal instruments. Some bands may do that every now and then (like Rhapsody), but here it's more palatable in sense of melody construction. Archpsire melodies have many things in common with some classical symphonies and concertos for string instruments.

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People really do be needing to come up with crazy reasons to justify their liking/disliking of smth

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I like because guitar go wewoo fast and dude skram fastlikethissjdhskjrjes

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Dis hitting

Dis fux



Aaaaight gettting those AB vibes on t/track

The classical "influence" on this is definitely being exaggerated. The intro and break on Reverie on The Onyx is lifted from a Mozart piece, sure, but it's basically a novelty.

The songs still progress and develop in the way rock songs are expected to. Clearly defined lead and rhythm roles, abundance of catchy, staccato rhythms, regular alternation between verses and (pre-)choruses, clean breaks about two-thirds of the way through that strip down said choruses or reprise the intros, etc.

None of those are bad things in and of themselves, but I ain't hearing classical influence here in the way I am with First Fragment. And I like this more than the new First Fragment.

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As a bass player, Jared Smith is truly inspiring here.



Guy started playing bass in 2015... He played guitar since he was a teenager which has probably helped him a lot with left hand technique and musical theory / composition skills, but still... when you look at his right hand technique it's phenomenal. Guy uses 2 or 3 fingers technique, slap, double thumb technique, crazy fast tapping, strumming...

And the way he finds room to bring something more between the guitars and drums is amazing in this kind of compositions (bassist job yes).

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Classicaler

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I think given the fact that classical music is the foundation of any and all modern music, and the breadth of styles / techniques / approaches of different composers, one can basically make a valid argument of almost any modern music being classically influenced. Just because it doesn’t mimic Bach or Mozart or Beethoven particular songwriting style, doesn’t mean it doesn’t follow a different composer or lieder or w.e. Yes there are obviously overarching similarities in the different periods, but there is just so much classical music that isn’t symphonies and sonatas. There are regular asf songs and sketches too





Kinda similar to when people say stuff like “it sounds so 80s” or “90s” or w.e. It’s meaningful - to a point. There were popular ideas in the 80s, but the sheer variety of music in each time period is just too insane to be able to assert such things as anything other than a convenience. So many bands within the same genres and same time periods sound nothing alike, that saying “it’s so 80s” is really just saying “it’s so similar to the most popular ideas of the 80s”

Sure but if you're gonna broaden "classically influenced" to mean "anything that was made subsequent to and thus (in)directly influenced by x, y and z to any extent" it's not a very useful descriptor.

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My post is as much against such a descriptor as it is for.



I think ultimately we lose more than we gain by obsessively categorizing things in the first place.

Always enjoyed the one guitarist's youtube channel, but their past music never really made any impression on me. This worth checking?

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"My post is as much against such a descriptor as it is for."

Trying way too hard to have the edgy opinion eh? ;)

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I don’t see what’s edgy or controversial about having conflicting feelings on genre descriptors. That would imply I’m trying to provoke someone, which I’m not.

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No probs, just quoting what a wise man said in another thread.