Trivium In the Court of the Dragon
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Rowhaus
October 13th 2021


7136 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

I don't see an identity crisis at all. I think it blends really well actually. You might as well claim classic Opeth had an identity crisis while you're at it. "Are they death metal or prog rock?? These Swedes gotta make up their minds!"

Pikazilla
October 13th 2021


32373 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

I don't see an identity crisis at all. I think it blends really well actually. You might as well claim classic Opeth had an identity crisis while you're at it.

valek
October 13th 2021


438 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

I mean Metalcore is a genre that uses choruses that are "catchy radio rock" shit all the time, I don't see the indentity crisis at all.

kalkwiese
October 13th 2021


11038 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Maybe, if the crisis lasts long enough, it just becomes your identity

djaydjay
October 13th 2021


57 Comments


Trivium have had those for catchy vocals for years, but I really feel this is their biggest weakpoint. The vocals melodies are always so generic it hurts.

And judging by the comments this album is saddly no exception. I'll give it a listen but I don't expect to much tbh.

valek
October 13th 2021


438 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

You know what they say, expect nothing and you will never be disappointed.

Sowing
Moderator
October 13th 2021


45523 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Shogun has some of my all-time favorite metalcore songs, but this tops it. It's just consistently great the entire time.

TheSpirit
Emeritus
October 13th 2021


30304 Comments


trivium has never been a metalcore band

Sowing
Moderator
October 13th 2021


45523 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

are you telling me the sputnik genre tags have been lying to me for over a decade

TheSpirit
Emeritus
October 13th 2021


30304 Comments


right to your face, sowing



despicable little things they are

Sowing
Moderator
October 13th 2021


45523 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

do we need to start having misinformation disclaimers on sputnik

can you imagine

TheSpirit
Emeritus
October 13th 2021


30304 Comments


our poor servers would never make it

AlexKzillion
Emeritus
October 13th 2021


19048 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Yeah the "metalcore band" tag has always kinda bothered me for them when they've always had that classic 80s heavy metal influence so apparent in their sound.



Like I think the sound of albums like Shogun and Ascendancy in particular is night and day with shit like Killswitch or As I Lay Dying etc. that they typically get thrown together with

SteakByrnes
October 13th 2021


31061 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5 | Sound Off

thrashcore moment

Flugmorph
October 13th 2021


35411 Comments


any new feature detracts 5 years off of the already strained lifespan of this website.

valek
October 13th 2021


438 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

You can be specific on the tags/influences I suppose, they have clear elements of Metalcore, Heavy Metal and Thrash but yeah I usually just call them Metalcore and not every thing they use in their sound, I wouldn't think calling them a "Heavy Metal" band achieves anything better.

TrantaLocked
October 13th 2021


2540 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

There are plenty of bands that aren't "pure" metalcore that we still call metalcore. Trivium still clearly falls under the power-metal subdivision of metalcore which I'd argue is the most popular, not on this site but in general. A lot of people would call this version of metalcore the primary one.

kalkwiese
October 13th 2021


11038 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Heavy power death thrash prog core metal

Mythodea
October 13th 2021


7459 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

with violin

gschwen
October 13th 2021


995 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

"A lot of people would call this version of metalcore the primary one."



That's interesting. When I think of metalcore, I think of anything that spawned as "less metal/more core", bands like Botch, DEP, Converge, Norma Jean. Trivium, at least to me, sounds more purely metal and not having any hardcore at all.



Anecdotally, KsE released their big second album at the end of nu-metal's peak, and I still associate them as a survivor of nu-metal, rather than a metalcore band.



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