not sure what you're swinging for here? most certainly miss his good humour and lack of patience for asinine clutchings at muh opinion takes, yes

it's not even about colton, i defended you over the same incessant bullshit. people who take other's arbitrary music opinions to personal levels and into what definitely constitutes as cyber bullying are fucking pathetic.

he says lizzo is lame and you say he's trapped in the canadian simpmatrix. These things are not the same!

I'm sure you pat yourself on the back for your superior taste in music (which probably is better than colton's tbh), but that doesn't NOT make you a dick?

It ain't my fault that I'm out here getting loose
Gotta blame it on the Goose
Gotta blame it on my juice, baby

Ya ya eeee

Album Rating: 3.5

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hmm

what is going on

The standard Lizzo Ipsum passage, used since the 1500s
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Section 1.10.32 of "de Finibus Bonorum et Malorum", written by Cicero in 45 BC
"Sed ut perspiciatis unde omnis iste natus error sit voluptatem accusantium doloremque laudantium, totam rem aperiam, eaque ipsa quae ab illo inventore veritatis et quasi architecto beatae vitae dicta sunt explicabo. Nemo enim ipsam voluptatem quia voluptas sit aspernatur aut odit aut fugit, sed quia consequuntur magni dolores eos qui ratione voluptatem sequi nesciunt. Neque porro quisquam est, qui dolorem ipsum quia dolor sit amet, consectetur, adipisci velit, sed quia non numquam eius modi tempora incidunt ut labore et dolore magnam aliquam quaerat voluptatem. Ut enim ad minima veniam, quis nostrum exercitationem ullam corporis suscipit laboriosam, nisi ut aliquid ex ea commodi consequatur? Quis autem vel eum iure reprehenderit qui in ea voluptate velit esse quam nihil molestiae consequatur, vel illum qui dolorem eum fugiat quo voluptas nulla pariatur?"
1914 translation by H. Rackham
"But I must explain to you how all this mistaken idea of denouncing pleasure and praising pain was born and I will give you a complete account of the system, and expound the actual teachings of the great explorer of the truth, the master-builder of human happiness. No one rejects, dislikes, or avoids pleasure itself, because it is pleasure, but because those who do not know how to pursue pleasure rationally encounter consequences that are extremely painful. Nor again is there anyone who loves or pursues or desires to obtain pain of itself, because it is pain, but because occasionally circumstances occur in which toil and pain can procure him some great pleasure. To take a trivial example, which of us ever undertakes laborious physical exercise, except to obtain some advantage from it? But who has any right to find fault with a man who chooses to enjoy a pleasure that has no annoying consequences, or one who avoids a pain that produces no resultant pleasure?"

Somebody come get yo maaaaaaaaaaaans

As if it’s any less “armchair psychologist” of you to detract from the weight of a musician’s lyrics because you don’t approve of the way they joke around and meme on the internet
?? i said outright that i have a different attitude for her lyrics than for her meme antics ??

Are you seriously trying to suggest that Lizzo is doing something groundbreaking and unique here and is the only artist to talk about self empowerment etc in music?
no, i'm suggesting that i was suspicious any other artists you would reference would be relevant to this discussion. since neither roisin murphy nor kendrick lamar have a remotely similar platform to discuss self-empowerment in bopo terms to lizzo, i think i was right - not to detract from the cogency of what either of those two have to say on their own terms

@both this isn't about taste in music or personal matters tbh - if 'canadian simpmatrix' scans beyond facetious shitpost levels, i apologise for it. i'm pretty indifferent to this album musically and sure af wouldn't pick it as a hill to die on for taste cred. what i consider v much pathetic here is the writing off of 1) the significance of a body positivity narrative articulated in unoriginal language 2) lizzo's agenda in crafting that beyond the scope of zeitgeist cred 3) the potential for faceless crowds of people on twitter to, heaven forbid, somehow enjoy this in spite of its hideous all-ruining blandness.

i don't think that's an 'arbitrary music opinion'. i think it's a lazy attempt at individual muso-cred that selectively disregards the majority of what this album expresses and represents. i think that smacks of disconnect and entitlement. i don't think its healthy to let that sit as an innocuous observation on a 99% male site with typically pedestrian levels of sensitivity and engagement for anything not centred on personal gratification. i don't think colton is hellspawn for being complicit in this and i don't think i'm a saint for foregrounding it, and (yes) this only ever a just_my_opinion scenario, but I feel like it was written to pander to people who use twitter too much is a gross and (in my o p i n i o n) insensitive take. you think this is shite music - fine! cool. have another shot at expressing that without obnoxiously steamrollering the artist, her platform and the kinda demographic who'd think more highly of her for the sake of expressing dat very important personal just-an-opinion. i'm amazed that calling it as such has attracted so much controversy

What the fuck is happening in this thread lmao

this album was too bland for colton and therefore it was engineered as twitter fodder. it should be written off as a fad because people relate to it

"and sure af wouldn't pick it as a hill to die on"

Woops!

hmm

did you just take my arbitrary opinion and turn it into very threatening copypasta? total cyberbullying. all my m8s will go no-rating with me in solidarity and everyone will see how pathetic this is

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"Kinda like Lil Mariko"

you know that out of everything, this is why this is happening right now.

colton just admit you’re fatphobic and move on

I feel like no one actually likes lil mariko, they are just so intimidated that they must fall in line.

same for lizzo. johnny is scared of optics. "will they call me fat-phobic if I say this sucks )("

who cares, this fucking sucks.