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mryrtmrnfoxxxy
September 9th 2017


16953 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

i agree let's all forget about twfm

theBoneyKing
September 9th 2017


24890 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

Why would I forget about a classic album

Chortles
September 9th 2017


21494 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

let's all forget about the national

mryrtmrnfoxxxy
September 9th 2017


16953 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

this is now a dino jr discussion

theBoneyKing
September 9th 2017


24890 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

You're living all over my National thread

mryrtmrnfoxxxy
September 9th 2017


16953 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

the national could learn a thing or two from j i think

TalonsOfFire
Emeritus
September 9th 2017


21029 Comments

Album Rating: 4.4 | Sound Off

TWFM is their weakest since the first two but still 9/10.

Sowing
Moderator
September 9th 2017


45556 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Settling on a 4. I've come to the following conclusions:



1) It's definitely one of their most understated albums, but there's real beauty to be found beneath the surface.

2) The album doesn't really get going until the second half; best stretch is tracks 8-12.

3) I'll Still Destroy You is in the top 10 songs The National have written.

4) Turtleneck is good for the album's pace but as a standalone song kind of sucks.

5) It's a grower to a point, but it will never have the emotional ceiling that High Violet possessed or the immediacy of Trouble Will Find Me.



Last but not least, if history is any indicator, I will 5 this by year's end and will disagree with any criticisms above because The National are perfect and I'm just too stupid to see it right now.

Toondude10
September 9th 2017


15374 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

"Last but not least, if history is any indicator, I will 5 this by year's end and will disagree with any criticisms above because The National are perfect and I'm just too stupid to see it right now."



at least you admit it, but we knew about this already.

TalonsOfFire
Emeritus
September 9th 2017


21029 Comments

Album Rating: 4.4 | Sound Off

How is TWFM immediate it's so molassasy and slow.

cylinder
September 9th 2017


4407 Comments


"The album doesn't really get going until the second half"

Day I Die, System..

what i'm really loving about it is that it seems like The National finally taking a break from being so 'understated.' a lot of these songs have a real gut-punch to them that their subtler work on Boxer, HV couldn't really grasp by their nature. not to belittle those albums of course. but man these guitarrrs



TalonsOfFire
Emeritus
September 9th 2017


21029 Comments

Album Rating: 4.4 | Sound Off

When the album gets going is up to opinion whether you prefer their rock side or more contemplative, slow side, which is more the second half.

ShadowRemains
September 9th 2017


28713 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

They've been doing something right since Alligator


since sad songs really

TalonsOfFire
Emeritus
September 9th 2017


21029 Comments

Album Rating: 4.4 | Sound Off

Yeah Sad Songs is underrated

Dylan620
September 9th 2017


6007 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Backing up the SSFDL love



And TWFM was not even remotely immediate for me, I was disappointed with that album when it was released

dustandnations
September 9th 2017


371 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

That closing track needs more love. I didn't realise how much I needed a song like that by them. Berninger's vocals and lyrics are a match made in heaven for a soundscape like that. I'm a fanboy, I admit, but there's not chance that won't be my SOTY.



Enjoying reading the discussion here though. I really thought this was their most immediate/obvious album since Alligator, and the first time they've come close to capturing some of the dynamics of their live show on record. Interesting to see other people having the opposite reaction!

theBoneyKing
September 9th 2017


24890 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

They've been doing something right since Alligator



since sad songs really


Since Cherry Tree, really

ShadowRemains
September 10th 2017


28713 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

cherry tree was released after sad songs

theBoneyKing
September 10th 2017


24890 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

Right; I don't include Sad Songs in the run where they've gotten it right

TalonsOfFire
Emeritus
September 10th 2017


21029 Comments

Album Rating: 4.4 | Sound Off

You have sad songs at 7/10 boney ya goon



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