Album Rating: 5.0

Yeah, art is for the people and not commodification! And you hate all the best things, Reef. Or like you like some of them but all of it usually has to be tidy and safe and inoffensive, with the odd outlier like Beefheart. It can never be too new either lol.

I don't feel like that's a fair criticism. First of all, I like what I like. i can't change that and second of all, I don't like to get into dick measuring contests by bragging about how much "offensive" or "challenging" music I like. When it comes to dissonance and atonality, I like it in small doses when it's used in the right places. Beefheart or Sun Ra manage to walk that tight rope for me a lot. This does not.

Album Rating: 4.0

Is this as good as Glenn Branca tho?



Seriously can one safely listen to this having only heard ‘A Love Supreme’ or would I be better off checking some of his other material first?

Album Rating: 4.5

Check his other stuff first, and yes it's better than Glenn Branca.

Album Rating: 4.0

Yeah check his other stuff first Demon. Especially My Favourite Things 💚☘️💚



This is lovely and legendary and super intense and alive but it's more of a possible end point instead of a good second experience with Coltrane.

>and yes it's better than Glenn Branca.

hmm........

He's right but so what

no thats miles davis

Album Rating: 4.0

I just saw Ascencion and yeah Branca, not really a necessary comparison guys.



I’ll do some digging, thanks for the rec Trif.

Album Rating: 4.5

Oh lol Ascension, woosh



Branca Ascension is a hard 5

I have not heard Coltrane Ascension yet and it is also a hard 5

Album Rating: 4.5

^^^

Album Rating: 5.0

Indeed, both are hard 5's. We're all brothers in dissonance! I feel like both are to be enjoyed if you like heavy or weird shit.

Album Rating: 4.5

No, you can't safely listen to this If u have no idea about Coltranes evolution towards free jazz.



You have to start in the late 50s and slowly work your way forward in Coltranes Discog to be able to classify Ascension musically as well as spiritually.



Starting with Ascension would be the same as if you wanted to dive deeper into European movies and immediately start with 'Ex drummer' (for me the cinematic equivalent to Ascension).

Album Rating: 4.5

Ex Drummer's really what you're going with for the analogy?

Album Rating: 4.5

Yes, love them both so much but both are hard to enjoy.

For me Ex Drummer is a classic lol

Album Rating: 4.5

I just mean talking about the cosmic spirituality of this, something as ultimately nihilistic as Ex Drummer feels like a strange comparison lmao (like the capstone course on something that started with Noe's filmog)



My mind, something more existentially surreal and unknowable rather than outright bleak feels better suited, Muriel Time of the Return, Eden and After, Marketa Lazarova (guess that one's still pretty damn bleak lol) reads a closer parallel to my eyes, if you're sticking with European flicks

Album Rating: 4.5

Although comparing a work so steeped in the experience of black spiritualism to a pretty much universally white film canon is a strange comparison in the first place, so w/e works

Album Rating: 4.5

Fair points.

Will check them out.



Comparsion is based on my personal preference.

Album Rating: 5.0

Idk, I was already into harsh music so I got into Coltrane’s wild shit and went backwards. Everyone has an individual experience with art. For me, it isn’t remotely hard to enjoy.

Album Rating: 4.0

‘No, you can't safely listen to this If u have no idea about Coltranes evolution towards free jazz.’



This makes me want to dive right in as an act of defiance, guess I’m just one of those people. Saying you ‘can’t’ seems absurd to me, maybe it isn’t the optimum way of appreciating his evolution, but everyone is different.