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Your mixing things up Dev'y, tumblr cashed in on the Vaporwave style far too late for the two to be
realistically associated. That's part of the whole lazy cop out of using random social media (tumblr,
instagram, /mu/) in an attempt to discredit art; the opinions of people who'd rather listen to trends
and memes than the actual music itself.
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ill roll over in my grave to my computor and apologize for calling your intuitions preposterous
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i sincerely doubt vaporwave will have the tiniest fraction of the impact of surrealism and dada [2]
I can't even see how the two can be compared tbh
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I find it curious you chose dada and the surrealists for your flimsy analogy. Why not the impressionists? Or the fauves? Or the futurists? All of these shook up their respective eras and are part of a logical progression of events that ushered in modernism.
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the approach vaporwave is using can't be associated with any of these (maybe with dada but still....), I believe if "Vaporwave" is a thing it can only be associated to contemporary arts and beyond.
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Referencing its place in the canon of internet hierarchy isn't discrediting it, but at the same time it'd be hard to see vaporwave reaching the level of infamy that it has if it didn't rely on its very self aware ability to touch on the counter culture fringes that social media websites such as Tumblr revel in
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the approach vaporwave is using can't be associated with any of these (maybe with dada but still....), I believe if "Vaporwave" is a thing it can only be associated to contemporary arts and beyond.
well even tho i disagree with him, everything is contemporary at one point or another so i dont think thats a really relevant argument
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I find it curious you chose dada and the surrealists
because dada surrealism were directly interested not only in their art but the subversive effects of their art as well, as it pertained to the current artistic landscape.
there are plenty of other movements that do this but i think if anything vaporwave is a modern, technologically saturated version of surrealism, and dada in a way informed surrealism so that's why i chose to use that as an analogy. dali and bunel would probably have loved memory vague.
and of course movements almost 100 years apart arent going to directly analogous so stop being pendantic
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What is the approach? Nobody will give me a clear definition it is all a bunch of mumbo jumbo about
technology that could be applied to any electronic music subgenre.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQxtZlQlTDA
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What is the approach? Nobody will give me a clear definition it is all a bunch of mumbo jumbo about
technology that could be applied to any electronic music subgenre.What is the approach? Nobody will give me a clear definition it is all a bunch of mumbo jumbo about
technology that could be applied to any electronic music subgenre.What is the approach? Nobody will give me a clear definition it is all a bunch of mumbo jumbo about
technology that could be applied to any electronic music subgenre.What is the approach? Nobody will give me a clear definition it is all a bunch of mumbo jumbo about
technology that could be applied to any electronic music subgenre.What is the approach? Nobody will give me a clear definition it is all a bunch of mumbo jumbo about
technology that could be applied to any electronic music subgenre.What is the approach? Nobody will give me a clear definition it is all a bunch of mumbo jumbo about
technology that could be applied to any electronic music subgenre.
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Despite being separated by time, I could totally see how they'd be associated. Just take a look at the cover art of FLORAL SHOPPE and you'll see the same rejection of logic and embrace of the nonsensical and irrational that the dada movement was defined by (which goes for the music here as well, taking pre-existing sounds and turning them upside down into something new and abnormal).
One of the best examples of surrealism is Memorex Dawn's Galleria, which takes ordinary background music and warps it into something that's distant, dream-like, and haunting, and for someone like me who has vivid memories of hearing this type of music as a kid, it makes for a completely surreal experience. | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPv_UbONIrc
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"Referencing its place in the canon of internet hierarchy isn't discrediting it"
Tumblr has certainly helped the name gain notoriety, I've personally seen alot of artists use it to get their music out there as of recent, but to use that kind of social media in a negative connotation towards the music is completely irrelevant.
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"because dada surrealism were directly interested not only in their art but the subversive effects of
their art as well, as it pertained to the current artistic landscape."
Every single European artistic movement during the period of 1850-1910 was a subversive response to
the movement that came before it and the political climate at the time. It culminated with the
Futurists, who wanted to completely abandon the past. Then a myriad of increasingly shitty conceptual
art took over until we arrived at pretentious crap like Damien Hirst and Macintosh Plus.
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do you like anything or is everything shitty for u
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loving this thread, although I don't understand this idea: "informed surrealism"
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that was only one part of my point though, the reason i chose those two was because i see a pretty strong link between the kind of subconscious, derisive freudian conceptual work of the surrealists and the modernized subconscious impressionism of "vaporwave".
like i said the two arent going to be completely analogous but i dont see any problem linking the two
and i didnt use the futurists because the advent of the internet basically makes that entire movement irrelevant to current art-historical cannon.
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If it is a weak analogy, why use it? It's fallacious.
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loving this thread, although I don't understand this idea: "informed surrealism"
dada and surrealism are historically intertwined, many of the participators in dada went on to
practice surrealism and a few of the ideas of the dada movement could be considered "proto-
surrealism"
http://www.oxfordartonline.com/public/page/themes/dadaandsurrealism
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If it is a weak analogy, why use it? It's fallacious.
now you're just being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian. i explained pretty extensively why i think the analogy is NOT weak
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