Album Rating: 3.5

love those harmonies on hand of the host

Album Rating: 4.5

in no universe is Absence better than this

and yeah, agreed that not liking this is v on brand for turner, doesn't have the same bracing qualities he's usually game on. man knows his craft - on the other hand, most of haughm's best (and worst) moments seem to come from places a million miles from self-awareness so idk if there was much of an expectation for him to be a good judge of anything

Album Rating: 5.0

It does have a few great tracks(HOLY TEARS) but yeah this album is among the best.

Album Rating: 3.0

“So, for me, though I’m glad that other people have gotten something out of some of the ISIS records that I don’t feel really good about, which would be the last two….. I’m glad they exist for the people who enjoy them. For me, personally, I wish Panopticon had been the last record [laughs]. To put that bluntly.” /AT



(@NormalOctagon).



Also, when the interviewer broaches the cleaner production and whether that was also something he disliked about WR, he says:



“Yeah. I mean, I have qualms about just about every aspect, so, yeah, the production was an issue for me for sure.”

Album Rating: 5.0

This album has god tier production imo, but sure, some people prefer it raw like Celestial and Oceanic. Strange that AT's okay with Panop because it does have a clean sound, the man is a puzzle lmao but I still love his work

Album Rating: 4.5

"This one is better overall but the other one has the better songs"



wut

Album Rating: 4.0

Pretty sure Turner's always been open about how much he dislikes this album

Album Rating: 5.0

Yea, imo Absence has the better tracks: Garden of Light and Holy Tears

Album Rating: 4.5

'Pretty sure Turner's always been open about how much he dislikes this album'



you can't really trust the opinion of a quitter though

Album Rating: 4.0

I trust his opinion because I agree that this is leagues below Oceanic and Panopticon

Album Rating: 4.5

yes because you too are a quitter as we can clearly see in your username.....you decided on pikachu and then quit on it midstream



seriously though, most records are leagues below O and P

Album Rating: 4.0

you're a quitter too



your username was meant to be tits but you bailed last second

Album Rating: 4.5

guilty!

Album Rating: 5.0

forgot how mutherfuckin hard this goes

Album Rating: 5.0

god tier production [2]

Album Rating: 5.0

is 20 minutes/40 years the greatest song ever made?



I'm not ruling it out

Album Rating: 5.0

It's one of the GOATs, agreed

Album Rating: 4.5

They were so good. Finished at the right time too: on top.

Album Rating: 5.0

yea I honestly think this one's in a league of its own, tho their other records are indeed dope as heck

Album Rating: 4.0

Yeah this is their pinnacle imo.



And since when do you trust the creator when it comes to the quality of the finished piece? They’re far too close to what they created, so you often have to take these things with a large pinch of salt.