Album Rating: 4.5

In a perfect world this and Trouble would have swapped averages and Alligator and Violet would be sitting on a 4.6 and 4.8 respectively :3

Album Rating: 5.0

I'm fine with this one having the 4.4 tbh, I'd prefer if Alligator and Trouble switched but I'm just glad Trouble has a 4.1 now.

Album Rating: 3.0

every time someone says this band is post-punk, i get triggered tbh

Album Rating: 5.0

They're definitely influenced by post-punk, particularly on this and Alligator.

This is still their best album

Album Rating: 3.0

sounds nothing like 70s-80s post punk. pp-revival is absolutely true tho (important distinction imo).

Album Rating: 5.0

Well what is ppr if not post-punk influenced indie rock (I.e what The National are)?

Album Rating: 5.0

this is post punk/indie rock imo, alligator and sad songs are def flatout post punk though

Album Rating: 5.0

Nah, The National are always primarily indie rock, the post-punk is never more than a flavor really

Album Rating: 4.0

besides post-punk has historically been all over over the place in terms of sound... The National are obv more indie but I wouldn't get triggered over a post-punk label but it's w/e. Alligator isn't flatout post-punk lol

Album Rating: 3.0

ppr = post-punk revival.

an interesting trend that occurred about the same time as the garage-rock revival trend that also occurred among indie rock bands in the late 90s and 2000s. post-punk revival takes the angular and "edgy" tones and styles, along with strong basslines and (occasionally dance-y) rhythmic sections - and applies to modern and clean indie rock format. notably, it lacks almost all of the experimental edge that came with the first post-punk movements. ppr was an important and commercially successful trend in the 2000s - it was quite, but only slightly, influential to rock music at the time.

Album Rating: 3.0

i was getting into post-punk in like 2012, and people told me stuff like this was post-punk and i was like "umm dafuq is this shit???" i still remember it lmao. i jest but also don't...

Album Rating: 5.0

a ton of garage rock bands in the 2000s were being labelled post punk, its an overused term that has lost most of its meaning in the process of being spread too thin

Album Rating: 5.0

I don't understand what "garage rock" is even supposed to be.

Album Rating: 5.0

Black Keys got labelled as that, as did White Stripes, Yeah Yeah Yeahs, etc



Royal Blood get labelled as that now too, which is just a nice way of saying they sound shitty and need a proper guitarist

Album Rating: 5.0

So basically lo-fi blues rock?

Album Rating: 5.0

yeah pretty much, if QOTSA were lo-fi they almost certainly would've been called garage rock too

Album Rating: 3.0

garage rock is like super important. the genre formed in the 60s when just picked up guitars in their garages and started playing much rougher, harsher, lo-fi (at the time).

at the time, rock n' roll, rockabilly, blues/rock and pop rock (+surf rock too!) were the dominant forms of rock music and garage rock has roots from all of them. loud, noisy, raucous, and messy, garage rock is made for a natural precursor to punk rock.

garage rock can come in all sorts of flavors and has numerous movements/sects, but in the 2000s, a mix between blues rock, indie rock, and occasionally ppr was very successful (known as garage rock revival).

in short, if you encounter a "lo-fi blues" band in the 2000s, yeah it's prob garage rock as well! i guess in the later movements, garage rock is a bit closer to an approach and aesthetic, than a concrete genre.

Album Rating: 5.0

There are elements of post-punk in these guys' music at times, but yeah, I definitely wouldn't describe this album as a whole with that label

Album Rating: 5.0

@Cyg pretty much hit the nail on the head, the actual sound was established decades ago and and now it is more about an approach and an aesthetic.



Honestly the only song that sounds post-punky on here to me is Mistaken For Strangers.