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neekafat
Emeritus
March 8th 2018


26926 Comments

Album Rating: 4.2

Cobain sure thought so

claygurnz
March 8th 2018


7800 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Yeah he did but dude was slightly closed minded about the whole fame thing.

DoofusWainwright
March 8th 2018


19991 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

'the dictionary definition of unoriginal'



Cobain transcended his influences because he's a natural song writer in the grand tradition of that - Lennon, Neil Young, Brian Wilson take your pick. Way more natural than Thurston Moore or Black Francis or The Replacements or Mudhoney, honestly in a totally different ball park.



The Pixies are really catchy sure, but they don't ever connect like Nirvana at their best - that's why they sold less records.



He also had this natural voice that grabbed you like a Dylan or a Jagger or whoever. In fact he had the most 'perfect for the time' voice since Axl Rose about four or five years earlier. The success of such acts isn't a fluke, usually it's a voice above all that just fits the age and sums up the 'ethos of the kids' at that moment.



As much as I don't particularly warm to Cobain watching documentary footage what does scream out was he was on of those natural creative people who just creates continuously and keeps moving. I actually think fame might have screwed him by him over analysing his previous work - I could totally have seen him being more a Daniel Johnston figure if he hadn't had the looks and the voice.

zakalwe
March 8th 2018


42010 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Nice work Doof dude.

SandwichBubble
March 8th 2018


13965 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

"Cobain transcended his influences because he's a natural song writer in the grand tradition of that, Lennon, Neil Young, Brian Wilson take your pick."

"The Pixies are really catchy sure, but they don't ever connect like Nirvana at their best - that's why they sold less records."

Don't talk about this generation's kiddies being brainwashed when you guys believe stuff like this. Geffen played you

DoofusWainwright
March 8th 2018


19991 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Not at all - play me a Beatles album next to a Nirvana album and I hear a similar natural ease of song writing and melody. It's the indefinable nack, something like 'Breed' off this album is so simplistic and yet its perfect it really is. I'm sorry you don't hear it but it's there - it would be the best rock song of the last decade most likely. Its not even the best song on this album. It's better than ANY Pixies song, it flows like a natural wonder lol. One of the most joyful things you'll ever listen to.



The Pixies were always one step removed from the audience, a little too cerebral and 'art rock' to be as populist as The Beatles or the Stones. Nirvana just connected direct a la Beatlemania.



The problem now is there can never be a voice that captures the kiddies attention en masse so we'll never know if any current band are world beaters. The situation has its pros and cons.

deathschool
March 8th 2018


29488 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

While much of that my be true, I would still say that Nirvana's sound still wouldn't exist without (the) Pixies. So, they owe as much to one band as the other. And I love both bands, but Pixies does a lot for me these days.

DoofusWainwright
March 8th 2018


19991 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

They owe a lot to the Pixies, but they're just a whole different animal.



The only self conscious song on this for me is 'Polly', the only time the spell breaks a bit.

claygurnz
March 8th 2018


7800 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Polly is a little overrated imo

DoofusWainwright
March 8th 2018


19991 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

I love the Pixies btw - but they're not 'force of nature'

SandwichBubble
March 8th 2018


13965 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

Doof, being on a major label is what made them big. Not Cobain's lyricism.

claygurnz
March 8th 2018


7800 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Combination of both made them big tbh, young people relating to the themes of angst and being on Geffan giving them the platform to reach as many of those people as possible.

deathschool
March 8th 2018


29488 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Nirvana was big because Kurt Cobain was the greatest guitarist of all time, duh.

Drifter
March 8th 2018


21717 Comments


plus they're good

claygurnz
March 8th 2018


7800 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Very, very fucking good.

cold
March 8th 2018


6735 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Noooooo, it was definitely Cobain's songwriting. "Bleach" got them noticed by major labels because of how hot it was in the underground scene.

deathschool
March 8th 2018


29488 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Riffs babe, and solos. Damn. Thank god he left Megadeth to start this band.

cold
March 8th 2018


6735 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

It's annoying when people try to diminish his work.

Drifter
March 8th 2018


21717 Comments


wat

claygurnz
March 8th 2018


7800 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Who cares it's not ever going to get diminished



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