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mandan
April 27th 2014


13979 Comments


Agreed. Geezer was the glue that held the music together, even if Iommi was the main man.

Band was a tight, cohesive unit anyways.

OmairSh
April 27th 2014


17931 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Every great band needs a solid foundation.

mandan
April 27th 2014


13979 Comments


Agreed. Quite a few haven't had one though.

OmairSh
April 27th 2014


17931 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

I can't think of any great bands with an average rhythm section off the top of my head.





ArsMoriendi
April 27th 2014


42323 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

R.E.M. ?

StallionMang
April 27th 2014


9003 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

R.E.M. had a great rhythm section (for their first few albums at least)

NeroCorleone80
April 27th 2014


34618 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

The album from which all m/ was spawned

ArsMoriendi
April 27th 2014


42323 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Actually, there were bands labeled heavy metal before Black Sabbath even formed...



The first song ever labeled "heavy metal" was 1967's "Born to Be Wild" by Steppenwolf.

NeroCorleone80
April 27th 2014


34618 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

That was more proto-metal

JamieTwort
April 27th 2014


26988 Comments


Any bands labelled heavy metal before Sabbath weren't really heavy metal.

ArsMoriendi
April 27th 2014


42323 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

But the term "heavy metal" came from the lyrics of "Born to be Wild" soo... wouldn't the first band ever labeled a sub-

genre be a definite member of that sub-genre?

NeroCorleone80
April 27th 2014


34618 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

They dont sound metal though

JamieTwort
April 27th 2014


26988 Comments


@Ars: Not really, Steppenwolf didn't sound any more 'metal' than a lot of other hard rock bands around at the time. It's just that it had the words "heavy metal" in the song's lyrics so people labelled it as such.

ArsMoriendi
April 27th 2014


42323 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Okay, so you're saying the originators of a genre can no longer be considered part of a genre due to time?

MrSirLordGentleman
April 27th 2014


15343 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Asides from the t/t and N.I.B. I don't think this is that much "metal" tbh, they went to real metal on MoR

NordicMindset
April 27th 2014


25137 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

look at Green River

ArsMoriendi
April 27th 2014


42323 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

But I'd consider Green River to be the the definition of grunge due to the fact that they created it.



How is Steppenwolf any different for heavy metal?

MrSirLordGentleman
April 27th 2014


15343 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Steppenwolf can be considered metal, yeah, but if we like to count proto-metal, we could also count Helter Skelter

JamieTwort
April 27th 2014


26988 Comments


Okay, so you're saying the originators of a genre can no longer be considered part of a genre due to time?


No, I'm not saying that at all, where the hell did you get that from?

NordicMindset
April 27th 2014


25137 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

oh wow Ars you actually like this? surprised



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