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vult
October 26th 2022


3429 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

Ahh the beauty of subjective art

vult
October 26th 2022


3429 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

Love you colton

Colton
October 26th 2022


16757 Comments


you and joe rule also nice you have 1234 comments

HelloJoe
October 26th 2022


1097 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

It is what it is. And then folks like Tay-Tay SwiftKey have this abstract layer of... her art is usually rendered in this very glossy manner anyway. So even if the underlying feelings and emotions are incredibly real, the aesthetics aren't a message that will click with everyone.



At least compared to just filming an actual anxiety attack or something, right? As an extreme example. :P



Like, I defended Antonoff here because I certainly empathise with him but I couldn't say I reached the same feelings with Tay-Tay's new album. But someone else, actually, a lot of people will.



So many layers and layers to it all. Maybe Tay's aesthetic is actually the perfect delivery of that message for some. Not for me.



Basically yes. Subjective. Lol.

MoM
October 26th 2022


5994 Comments


“there are ways to explore your mental health issues and insecurities without directly flagging to a considerable chunk of your fanbase that they are the living incarnation of one of your worst nightmares”

Goddaaamn!

Hyperion1001
Emeritus
October 26th 2022


29714 Comments


reading this thread gave me brain cancer thanks all

HelloJoe
October 26th 2022


1097 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

Yeah, I'm with you there Johnny. I think they had an idea of what they were going for but mmm not sure they thought about how it might have been perceived as being quite insensitive to others.

Colton
October 26th 2022


16757 Comments


an artist is allowed to make art that depicts their own feelings and experiences without having some kind of obligation to coddle the feelings of strangers they don't even know. if you hear a Taylor Swift song about Taylor Swift's struggles with her body image in which Taylor Swift steps on a scale and Taylor Swift believes herself to be fat and think "this is about me" there's something wrong. and I would sympathize with those people, until they start to define what artists who they don't know are allowed or not allowed to say because of those personal insecurities

Colton
October 26th 2022


16757 Comments


your insecurities are your own responsibility, you don't get to force celebrities to carry that burden for you and manage those insecurities for you, they are not responsible for that in any way

HelloJoe
October 26th 2022


1097 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

That first sentence sounding like mad fetish vibes, Johnny.

Colton
October 26th 2022


16757 Comments


"how you have somehow reduced this to an issue of what people are and aren't allowed to say about what taylor swift is and isn't allowed to say is beyond me"

maybe because that's what the entire outrage is about to begin with. try to keep up

"get this ben shapiro shit the fuck out of my thread" - guy who continually and unapologetically uses alt-right insults lol

HelloJoe
October 26th 2022


1097 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

Basically, you put any art out publicly and it's going to be digested and perceived differently. Artist intentions be damned and all that.



I think it's both perfectly reasonable to say Taylor had intended to comment on her own body image but in doing so, perhaps conveyed it in such a way that it would be insensitive to someone else' struggles.



It's up to Taylor whether she feels the need to take responsibility and express apology for that.

Colton
October 26th 2022


16757 Comments


notice how everyone was having a good discussion here and johnny just can't help but pop in and be antagonistic as fuck

vult
October 26th 2022


3429 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

YW Hyperion gl on the recovery

HelloJoe
October 26th 2022


1097 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

Apparently, according to Captain Google, she has scrubbed out the scene of her video.

Colton
October 26th 2022


16757 Comments


ugh that's pathetic

HelloJoe
October 26th 2022


1097 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

Ah no. I'm very much an apologist enthusiast. I think sincere apology is very powerful. Now, one could see this as corporate machine covering their ass.



But I'd like to say it's Tay-Tay acknowledging that although it weren't her intentions, she recognizes it may have insulted other people.

vult
October 26th 2022


3429 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

Ugh that’s pathetic [2]

Colton
October 26th 2022


16757 Comments


it would be a 6 page rant if I hadn't been actively engaging with people responding the entire time

Kompys2000
October 26th 2022


9483 Comments


Tired: using the Anti-Hero video as a springboard for discussing how women handle internalized fatphobia

Wired: using the Anti-Hero video as a springboard for discussing Taylor Swift's inexplicable track record of bad, flop sweat-y music vids



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