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colejaeger
November 2nd 2018


12 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Weird to alternate between this and Daughters all week.

colejaeger
November 2nd 2018


12 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Also I see a lot of similarities between this and Bjork’s Utopia. Lots of extended passages of psychedelic chirping in a dream meadow. Both run maybe longer than they need to. Both have big epic openers. Work better as a whole than a collection of songs. Similar aesthetic.

luci
November 2nd 2018


12844 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

"But there’s so much to build to and around, having a few moments of discordance to elucidate themes of stimuli overload seems befitting."

exactly this

theBoneyKing
November 2nd 2018


24890 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Sure, but if you don't buy into the album on a conceptual level than it's fair to dismiss that section as unpleasant (for clarity I don't like particularly enjoy that part but I far from hate it or think it's useless)

Dettlaff
November 2nd 2018


432 Comments


"But there’s so much to build to and around, having a few moments of discordance to elucidate themes of stimuli overload seems befitting."

The lengths people will go to to validate something bad, jesus. That's more or less saying, "It's great that it's so bad because it helps highlight the better moments"

rabidfish
November 2nd 2018


9005 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

the lengths some will go to shit on a 3 min passage on a 90 min album just to justify their hate lol



dissonant isn't = bad. But maybe it is to you, and it would be a fitting argument to make if the thing was more than 1/34th of the actual album, but ok man.



seems like a petty thing to do, tbh, but it must be THAT annoying to you, i suppose.

Dettlaff
November 3rd 2018


432 Comments


Yikes

Dettlaff
November 3rd 2018


432 Comments


So, one of the album's themes is having to wade through shit to get to the good stuff?

Frippertronics
Emeritus
November 3rd 2018


19720 Comments

Album Rating: 4.7

Don't necessarily get what constantly complaining about a three-minute segment on an album is going to accomplish outside of looking obnoxious, but keep on keeping on, I guess.

J() Alexander
November 3rd 2018


7914 Comments


Shhhh, let them be, this is fun to read.

Frippertronics
Emeritus
November 3rd 2018


19720 Comments

Album Rating: 4.7

On one hand, you make a marvelous point



but on the other, it's awfully redundant to read someone whine for a solid page about a passage that is but a mere drop of water in a massive lake of off-the-wall music.

J() Alexander
November 3rd 2018


7914 Comments


On one hand, you're right. On the other, I still find it funny. Oh well, let's see what happens.

Dewinged
Emeritus
November 3rd 2018


33025 Comments


What Frip said. Some folk here are making a big deal out of not too much.

DoofDoof
November 3rd 2018


17315 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0 | Sound Off

‘Off-The-wall music’



It’s experimental/off-the-wall for Julia Holter.



I’ve heard loads of stuff that sounds like segments of this album whether from Bjork/AVH/Kate Bush/Jenny Hval/etc - the biggest off-the-wall choice was making it interminably long and dry as an experience.

Dettlaff
November 3rd 2018


432 Comments


Look, that plane person gave their opinion on a particular song, which to me sounded a little like a nonsensical rationalization for something being bad. I'm not saying this album sucks because of that one 3-minute passage, I'm merely responding to what I thought was faulty reasoning, and now everyone's jumping down my throat as if that song is my central thesis for disliking this. It is a small part of a larger problem: that being, this is oftentimes aimless and grating. There's too much meandering and too much noise for my liking. I didn't mean to offend you, plane, just wanted to challenge your point, which I realize now seemed confrontational. Holter is a ridiculously talented artist who's capable of some very beautiful melodies, I'm just not getting a sense of that here.

theBoneyKing
November 3rd 2018


24890 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

finished listen 6, it clicked. :-D

DoofDoof
November 3rd 2018


17315 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0 | Sound Off

ughhhh



Try Bjork 'Utopia' next ;D

Sowing
Moderator
November 3rd 2018


45535 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Another conversion :-) you made the right choice, Boney. Now that's 2 albums ever that we agree on.

DoofDoof
November 3rd 2018


17315 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0 | Sound Off

Even a rarely stopped clock tells the wrong time when it, er, stops?



I'll let Boney off so long as this doesn't get close to his end of year top 10 :3

Sowing
Moderator
November 3rd 2018


45535 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

he doesn't rate everything a 5 like I do so it might



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