Album Rating: 4.2 | Sound Off
I knew you were a gentleman at heart! They are completely different eras so it's pretty pointless to compare the two; most people have a pretty clear preference of either experimental ambient or black & folk metal.
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Album Rating: 3.5
Shadows isn't bm in any way bro lol. But yeah War isn't better than this, it's my least fav of theirs tbh.
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Album Rating: 3.5
Wars is better than this. Also WAY better than Messe. There you have it.
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Album Rating: 4.2 | Sound Off
I meant it's their best like after the bm era, I wasn't saying that Shadows was post-black metal itself. Jaime had a right to laugh if someone was saying that.
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Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off
I've pretty much been in love with this more "abstract" era of Ulver, starting with Messe through this. I may be in the minority, but I hope it continues - even if that means we get less Garm.
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They're on a good track. I agree with you there, although I certainly would find myself sorely missing Garm if his role as vocalist diminished any further.
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Messe is so good and definitely abstract. Flow-wise I feel it's very similar to War of the Roses with it's punchy mid-tempo parts stuck between layers of thick long atmospheric sections. I'll admittedly listen to everything they put out regardless of genre, because the band has so much creativity and passion for what they do and it always shines through in someway or another through almost all of their 20 albums/EPs.
Some days I wake up blasting Bergtatt, other days Shadows. Some days I'll even put on Perdition City when I'm craving that post-apocalyptic industrial future sound.
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Album Rating: 3.5
I wouldn't call this abstract. In fact I'd go as far as saying that the first half of this is some of the least interesting material they've done for a while.
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Album Rating: 3.5
Less Garm? Are you high?
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Album Rating: 4.2 | Sound Off
Everything this band has done since Roses besides maybe Childhood's End has been very abstract.
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Album Rating: 3.5
So this and Messe then? lol
I really don't see this as abstract.
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Album Rating: 4.2 | Sound Off
A lot of this is pretty abstract, Messe even more so though. They've also done other stuff since Roses too, like Terrestrials with Sunn 0))).
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Album Rating: 3.0
Terrestrials is the definition of wasted potential
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the 3.3 average of Terrestrials is too high.
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Album Rating: 3.5
Forgot about Terrestrials actually. I think that's it though.
"A lot of this is pretty abstract"
Depends on your definition I suppose but I can say with certainty that to me most of this is far from abstract. The psychedelic, almost rock-based tracks are nothing all that out of the ordinary within that realm, same goes for the ambient sections which are noticeably accessible.
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if your definition of abstract is the opposite of abstract yeah. there is a certain sum'n sum'n due to the improvised elements but this isn't too bizarro imo
should this be listed as a "live" album or what's the deal there
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Album Rating: 4.2 | Sound Off
This was too abstract for poor Willie judging by his soundoff.
The material was performed live, but the aftermath of cutting it all together and altering it makes a studio album, according to the band in the liner notes anyways.
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I guess he was using it in relative speak. the idea of what can even be considered "abstract" in music could be interesting to discuss (or not lol, haven't really given much thought). maybe some blog fodder in the future. meh. maybe
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absolute_music
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Album Rating: 3.5
Terrestrials is decent. The 3.3 is too low I'd say.
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Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off
I would consider this abstract despite there being plenty of music out there that is far more "out there" than this.
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