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Thalassic
July 14th 2018


5740 Comments


To state the first Korn record isn't a classic, is rather bold

Zeuzo
July 14th 2018


2349 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Not really, most people here don't think of it as a classic too.

Thalassic
July 14th 2018


5740 Comments


Depends on how you define "classic"

Not liking something or being rather lukewarm on something, doesn't really denounce something's classic status

Relinquished
July 14th 2018


50089 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

definitely stands above everything else within the genre it helped create

Zeuzo
July 14th 2018


2349 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

I really liked Korn back in the day. I just heard other albums that are classics. And they're infinitely better than this.

Thalassic
July 14th 2018


5740 Comments


That's because you adhere to the sputnikal subjective definition of a "classic".
I consider at least 5 Radiohead albums to be classics of their respective genre, despite the fact their music sounds like a pile of shit to my own subjective ears.

hansoloshotfirst
July 14th 2018


1644 Comments


well said.

Zeuzo
July 14th 2018


2349 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Not really. For example Pink Floyds The Wall is considered a classic pretty much by everyone and it sounds like shit to me. I won't give it a 5.

DarkSideOfLucca
July 14th 2018


19182 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

"and I can never get into It's On for the life of me."



I will never understand you

tyman128
Emeritus
July 14th 2018


4898 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

How can you consider something a classic personally if you don't like it in the first place?

Thalassic
July 14th 2018


5740 Comments


Because "classic" - to me at least - isn't something personal.

Zeuzo
July 14th 2018


2349 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Lol.

tyman128
Emeritus
July 14th 2018


4898 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Well I'd like to think that something "classic" is something that impacts you in a way (musically, emotionally, whatever it may be) that you can't find in other albums. I don't know, I just can't seem to find an objective way of defining a classic if everyone has a different appeal to sound and style.

Zeuzo
July 14th 2018


2349 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

So you'd give a 5 to something you hate just because it is a classic to anyone else and because it was influencial for other artists in a said genre?

I mean, objectivity should definitely be taken into account but wow

tyman128
Emeritus
July 14th 2018


4898 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Is... Is that directed towards Thalassic?

Zeuzo
July 14th 2018


2349 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Yeah

Thalassic
July 14th 2018


5740 Comments


No of course not. Personally I don't really care for ratings. I 5 when I like it, I 1 when I hate it. I've got bigger fish to fry than thinking out my own personal rating system.
From my personal point of view, I think the "5 = Classic" equation Sputnik uses in its rating system is a bit of a misnomer. Especially when you look at how subjective of an art music is and how subjective taste is in general while at the same time the place in history of a specific piece of art when it comes to innovation and critical response isn't subject to subjectivity.

Just my own personal 2 cents.

cold
July 14th 2018


6735 Comments


I can’t with you Zeuzo. Ily and all, but you’re quick to shit on something and on someone’s opinions, but when the same is done to you, you lose your shit. You’ve gotten more and more shitposty, but if you can’t take it don’t dish it, man.

DarkSideOfLucca
July 14th 2018


19182 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

All of your opinions are gay

Zeuzo
July 14th 2018


2349 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

I guess you're right coldy. At the end of the day everything is subjective and I probably won't ever change anyone's opinion by shitting on it.

I respect people's opinions.

BUT only when they're reasonable. As an example it's ok when someone likes SNW more than White Pony and says it's better. They're both amazing albums.

As an other very exaggerated example if someone told me that Korn is a better band than Pink Floyd I'd just lose my shit.

Subjectivity matters a lot, but some records/bands are just objectively better than the others.

But yeah I probably shouldn't be such an asshole and should have put everything I say in more kind words. Sorry baby

I'll still probably shit on people but I'll try not to be such a cunt! (it won't happen)





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