Circle Takes the Square As the Roots Undo
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robertsona
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August 11th 2010


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Your All Fat

Enotron
August 11th 2010


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Album Rating: 4.0

but when you go out of the way to intellectualize music to the extent that he does, it nulls any actual intelligence(at least in this thread)

WeepingBanana
August 11th 2010


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I CLIMB AND I CARVE MY INITIALS IN THE BARK WITH THE FEATHER THAT I FOUND BUT IT'S ALL SO BITCHFORK

NeutralThunder12
August 11th 2010


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Album Rating: 3.5 | Sound Off

Syncretic has a negative connotation, unlike genre-juxtaposition, which you all obviously hold on such a high level.



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Electric City
August 11th 2010


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Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

but it's all so contrived



who needs examples when you have a thesaurus




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Gyromania
Contributing Reviewer
August 11th 2010


38401 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

His musical taste will develop with time. Even if someone doesn't like this album, I wish they would stop trying to find reasons to hate it, it's become like a cult following.

Enotron
August 11th 2010


7695 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

yeah he's better when he's actually having legitimate conversations about music

NeutralThunder12
August 11th 2010


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Album Rating: 3.5 | Sound Off

Oh and @Enotron, I wouldn't really say that CTTS goes all over the place with juxtaposing different genres, but they are fairly experimental, even for this type of skramz. There are some jazzy moments, and a little bit of alternative rock every once and while.

Enotron
August 11th 2010


7695 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

the difference being some can find legitimate reasons

Enotron
August 11th 2010


7695 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

proggy i was just saying that their characteristics are found in many other skramz bands, they're not trying to be some multi-genre anomaly

Gyromania
Contributing Reviewer
August 11th 2010


38401 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

^ there are legitimate reasons, one of which is 'i just don't appreciate this style of music'

NeutralThunder12
August 11th 2010


8742 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5 | Sound Off

yes, Eno, that is actually the perfect way of describing it. It's not like their the BTBAM or maudlin of the Well of skramz or anything, but they are experimental. Is Bitchfork like really 13 or is that a joke? Maybe Im just late or something on the joke.

Enotron
August 11th 2010


7695 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

no, like, he really is

robertsona
Emeritus
August 11th 2010


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syncretic sounds like a fake word i bet he made it up

Gyromania
Contributing Reviewer
August 11th 2010


38401 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Neutral: so we're told, but take everything you read on the internet with a grain of salt ;)

Gyromania
Contributing Reviewer
August 11th 2010


38401 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

no, it's a real word, just not applicable.

NeutralThunder12
August 11th 2010


8742 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5 | Sound Off

haha yeah @Gyromania I get that, but there is no way a 13 year old is this critical or understanding of music (what fucking 13 year old kid has even heard of half the genres were talking about), and for that matter, what kind of 13 year old has that sophisticated of a vocabulary (despite the fact that the use of that vocabulary is obnoxious and totally superfluous in this specific argument)

NeutralThunder12
August 11th 2010


8742 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5 | Sound Off

no, it's a real word, just not applicable.



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Enotron
August 11th 2010


7695 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

perhaps a little too harsh in that analysis. b4k knows a lot because he spends all his time on the internet.

Bitchfork
August 11th 2010


7581 Comments


Specific examples of syncretism (most notable):

Crowquill's constant whirlwind of gag-traps and different styles of skramz and mathcore.

In the Nervous Light of Sunday rambles around a bunch of different styles without any other purpose than to make an out-of-place indie sing-along seem more important and interesting, when it's incredibly ridiculous and grating.

Same Shade as Concrete has three important sections. The beginning emo entry. The electronic "post-wade in the water" sect. And lastly the "THERE'S SO MUCH HOPE BURIED UNDERNEATH TRAGEDY" tidbit. However, there are about eight sections total. The five unimportant parts are basically genre-shifts and unintelligible takes on the last section but with a "twist" (i.e., a new vocal pattern).

Kill the Switch bounces between genres throughout its duration without purpose. On a side note, dynamics here are monotnous and the "technicality" seems more like mindless wankery.

Other arguments:

Circle Takes the Square play one dynamic too early and the climaxes aren't as effective as they could be.

Circle Takes the Square play out a specific section for too long, so it becomes boring. Then they fly through another eight sections of a song and nothing is developed.

Half of the tracks are overlong.

"Whack rhymes," banalities, and pretense ruin the lyrics. As well, the concept is basically a rip-off of John Milton's Paradise Lost with a run-in with a few other philosophical novels along the way. Too bad the band contrives romanticism into their lyrics, making it awkward, sloppy, and mechanical.



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