Circle Takes the Square As the Roots Undo
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Alexcore
August 11th 2010


1130 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

got to agree

Two of the best on the album [3]

Gyromania
Contributing Reviewer
August 11th 2010


38400 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

^The vocals differentiate it from everything else more so than the guitar work.

Bitchfork
August 11th 2010


7581 Comments


a break is where they take a rest from one style to do another. they do this every forty-five seconds. face it. you're trying to argue fact, and it doesn't work like that.

Bitchfork
August 11th 2010


7581 Comments


Talking about it because I'm really trying to see what you guys see in this but it's really empty and your arguments are pretty threadbare.

Enotron
August 11th 2010


7695 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

"you're trying to argue fact" jesus you're such an idiot. this is a skramz albums. not every change from distortion to clean means they're trying to incorporate a new genre, it's called a new section in a song. even if they were trying to be some sort of multi-genre band, why the fuck should that matter? you seriously make the most bullshit arguments.

Gyromania
Contributing Reviewer
August 11th 2010


38400 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

a break is where they take a rest from one style to do another. they do this every forty-five seconds. face it. you're trying to argue fact, and it doesn't work like that.



Your statements are so groundless... they do not do so.



Yeah the dual vocals are a nice touch. The style is hard to digest at first, if you know what I mean. They're quite rough and raspy



I loved this instantly, unlike most. I understand why others might have had difficulty adjusting, but it was a contrast to everything i was listening to and I loved it.



Talking about it because I'm really trying to see what you guys see in this but it's really empty and your arguments are pretty threadbare.



You gotta love Irony. Just face it, you're in the minority here, can we please move along from this album now?



Bitchfork
August 11th 2010


7581 Comments


even if they were trying to be some sort of multi-genre band, why the fuck should that matter?

Because it's ridiculously syncretic. It's incoherent pretense and that's not something that should be praised.

NeutralThunder12
August 11th 2010


8742 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5 | Sound Off

I love genre 'breaks' sometimes they sound fun and make me laugh, sometimes they really do fit well. Sigh sucks don't compare them. And "techno break"? "Acapella" break? How are they breaking into another genre by simply singing briefly at high pitch without any backing instrumentation? And math? This type of skramz is normally chaotic and expected so that's not in any way a break. Dude, quit now. And yes, agree with Enotron, an 'indie break'? Dude come on. Yeah, this album is pretty experimental, but the way your describing it absolutely retarded. They experiment outside the normal skramz zone with elements from genres such as jazz and alternative rock (maybe even indie to some extent, but the way you described as a 'break' was simply obnoxious)

Bitchfork
August 11th 2010


7581 Comments


You gotta love Irony. Just face it, you're in the minority here, can we please move along from this album now?

You're also talking about this album constantly, so you too are being ironic. At least I acknowledge it.
And how do you guys not see the endless spewage of genres. I mean, it can be done well, that's not my problem with it - their faults lie in execution not conception.

Gyromania
Contributing Reviewer
August 11th 2010


38400 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

It's definitely coherent.

Enotron
August 11th 2010


7695 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

so you're arguing that the fusion of genres is bad....because it practices the concept of fusing things?



you could say that they are sloppy and transition badly. stop trying to make them out to be mr. bungle

Bitchfork
August 11th 2010


7581 Comments


How are they breaking into another genre by simply singing briefly at high pitch without any backing instrumentation?

I'm referring to "Intro"

Gyromania
Contributing Reviewer
August 11th 2010


38400 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

We're talking about it for completely opposite reasons. I enjoy it, you're spewing your pretentious bs to act against it and further go against the grain.

Enotron
August 11th 2010


7695 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

dude nobody fucking listens to intro

Gyromania
Contributing Reviewer
August 11th 2010


38400 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Eno: It's nice to put on, and acts as a pretext for Interview at the Ruins.

Bitchfork
August 11th 2010


7581 Comments


enotro -they don't fuse anything they juxtapose.

I'm confused on some lyrical parts, but I do find them to provide great imagery and emotion

It's actually really easy to digest, but that makes it all the more clear how much bullshit was forced into this album.

Enotron
August 11th 2010


7695 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

ok maybe people do. but it shouldn't be used as a serious example when judging the album as a whole

NeutralThunder12
August 11th 2010


8742 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5 | Sound Off

Because it's ridiculously syncretic. It's incoherent pretense and that's not something that should be praised.



Stop there. Genre mashing can be stupid, but when capable bands do it, and use the genres in the form of 'breaks' from the normal flow of the song, it can be interesting. Bands like The Mars Volta, King Crimson, Between the Buried and Me, Cynic, maudlin of the Well and Dead Can Dance do this extremely well. These bands go outside the norms of their respective genres, and when correctly done, it can be totally rewarding. And how is genre mashing incoherent, if the sections are clearly separated and CAN flow well? Are you saying that any time genres are juxtaposed, in the form of a 'break', that it's automatically incoherent? I'm seriously starting to question your legitimacy.

Gyromania
Contributing Reviewer
August 11th 2010


38400 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Explain in great detail how it's forced.

Bitchfork
August 11th 2010


7581 Comments


So you rate an album a 4.5 when you hardly ever listen to it in full? That would make the album a 3 for me, as I rarely ever listen to individual songs. Just albums in whole.



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