Album Rating: 5.0

'cause you can't miss what you forgeeeeeeeeeeeet

Album Rating: 4.5

I should prob 5 this huh

the opener is perfect

Album Rating: 3.5

highschool musiiccccc

Album Rating: 5.0

this is basically a 5 for me as well tbh, need to get less stingy with 5ing stuff

Album Rating: 3.5

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI4i8kXRNdU



You're welcome

Its alright. Nothing revolutionary.

lmao are you serious

Album Rating: 4.5

you can think it's alright but it's def revolutionary whether you like it or not

I am serious. Nothing here you wouldn't find from post-rock.

I guess its one of the pioneers of Jazzy emo. But that would hardly be revolutionary.

i just find it incredibly funny that this is your problem with the album. like it was their goal to be revolutionary. do all your high rated stuff have to be revolutionary btw? because plenty of it isn't.

Mostly, although if I had a personal connection to an album I would rate it highly. Upon first listens I would rate based on how "revolutionary" it is. It is experimentation that interests me.

why tim buckley pioneering jazzy folk music is revolutionary, but american football pioneering jazzy emo suddenly isn't? hmmm

Album Rating: 3.0

Soft

Diluted

No bite

Breezy ambivalence

No point made

Nothing said

Nothing meant

Directionless

Without Craft

Without Soul

Nothing to imbibe

Nothing to reflect

Nothing indelible

Homogenised Feeling

By the Book

Contained

Restrained

Defamation of the real deal

Album Rating: 3.0

lol at my 3 rating

Because emo imo isnt as distinct of a genre. Folk and Jazz are very different sources. But midwest emo bared much resemblance to post-hardcore, alt-rock and slowcore. It is a melting pot genre (most are). Allot of the genre is defined by lyrical content too. What american Football did wasn't radically different to what alt-rock and slowcore bands had done. Unlike older emo bands the hardcore element is removed, making it even closer to said genres.

Album Rating: 3.0

Style over substance vapid bullshit is what it is.

it is a distinct genre, it's just that apparently your musical sensitivity is unable to catch that (and it's all right because everyone has a different musical sensitivity, it's called having favourites). you have several slowcore releases rated highly -- isn't slowcore just a slowed down version of alt rock? what about say mercury rev? it's just psychedelic music all over again (already revived by spacemen 3 earlier btw). steve roach? brian eno meets world music (what a revolution!) kayo dot? an obvious classical/metal mash-up etc etc. it's always easy to point to something's influences and say it's not revolutionary, but you can do it with any album, any artist. a small change can be considered a revolution, a big change can be considered just a gimmick, let's not forget about that.

sorry if you know that, it just that for me it read as if you were saying this album is (objectively) not revolutionary. if that's not true then my bad

"isn't slowcore just a slowed down version of alt rock" A little blunt, but yes. The influences bands like low and Red house Painter's had were not worn on their sleeves though. (Nick Drake etc) I'm not saying there are artists devoid of influence.(no one is). I don't think Mercury Rev was special because they revived psychedelia. I think they are special because they achieved a unique sound. (this is what I seek in music, unique experiences) Other than the Butthole Surfers (albeit not as extreme), I struggle to find any band who successfully combined noise rock with psychedelia. "kayo dot? an obvious classical/metal mash-up" As a kayo Dot fan, find me any metal band who resembled what they were doing before kayo dot. I doubt you can. I say this because I have searched for a long time for chamber metal bands.
American Football is no doubt influential. " saying this album is (objectively) not revolutionary. " One would need infinite knowledge for that. You argue that it is my musical taste that limits me from understanding how it changed the trajectory of music. I'd say its knowledge, not taste. (I actually love this band, anything red house painters influenced is bound to excite me)