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Shattered_Future
October 13th 2006


1641 Comments


No, I'm pretty sure Acey meant actual classical music. The kind that is nigh impossible to compose nowadays.

Acey
October 13th 2006


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i hate LP and dont care for RHCP. and i was talking classical music, not classic rock. it is pretty easy to tell the difference, classical music. the composer actually takes time in writing their song. (Beethoven, J.S. Bach, stuff like that)

and classic rock is always good, dont get me wrong.This Message Edited On 10.13.06

Sharkmenow
October 13th 2006


64 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

"Also, modern A7X is quite bad, I have to admit, but there is some unbelievable guitarwork on the first two albums."





I hope to god you're not a guitar player and actually just made that comment.So "stock" chuggy guitar riffs are better than Triviums material?And dont ever get me started on their solos,good-god those are the most un-original guitar solos Ive ever heard and quite frankly none of the guitarwork is technical on their older albums,the production is horrible,and they sounded like every band that wants to play the high school talent show.Those guys are like the N*Sync of metal.

Acey
October 13th 2006


2578 Comments


this was stating about A7X.
good-god those are the most un-original guitar solos Ive ever heard

so are Triviums, they rip off Metallica.This Message Edited On 10.13.06

Sharkmenow
October 13th 2006


64 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

Okay,Acey,im intelligent enough to not argue that point because you are most certainly right,however classical music is "METAL" in its own way.Hell,all those death metal bands use it for intros and all that synth and stuff,classical music and metal are like bread and butter.

Shattered_Future
October 13th 2006


1641 Comments


Unoriginal? Sure.

I can deal with unoriginal, so long as it's good. You can't deny it takes a fair amount of talent to play some of those solos the band pulls out.

And yes, the music is unoriginal as all hell, but it IS better than Trivium, to be quite honest. It doesn't cause me to want to shoot the computer when I'm listening to it.

metallicaman8
October 13th 2006


4677 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

Any classical beats the **** out of metal




Wrong, though some does.



I already know the drill,youre the typical dude that listens to a station like K-ROCK and actually enjoys the fact that you hear the same crappy Red Hot Chili Peppers or New Linkin Park song 10xs a day and now you think you know something about music.Judging by your earlier comments,its pretty obvious that you are a casual music fan.




Dude, shut the fuck up. You know nothing. Acey's comment was wrong, but seriously shut up. You're the reason metalheads have a bad name. You think "oooooo fast guitar playing, solos etc. etc." Besides it's ridiculously obvious you nothing about music because you tried to say these guys are good because they're popular. You're lucky there's no one smarter here, like Steerpike. Then you'd be in for it.This Message Edited On 10.13.06

Acey
October 13th 2006


2578 Comments


true, Shark, all of the deathmetal bands do use pianos and other elements of that for their song intro's. but as long as i can listen to it, it is good music.

Bron-Yr-Aur
October 13th 2006


4405 Comments


Yeah Christina has a great voice and typically has really good production for the songs Ive had the unfortuneate pleasure of listening to.But,Im a Metal fan,I wouldnt be caught dead listening to that trife garbage nor could I even relate to it.

Way to contradict yourself. Any argument you thought you had about bias is now completely void. You're neither open-minded, nor credibile, and you can prattle on as long as you like about how hardcore Trivium is and how much respect they're getting elsewhere. You're done.

/pseudo-philosophical crap about how pop is for the bland and corporate masses

Sort of like what Trivium is doing you mean? Seriously, you don't even know what you're talking about. If you want to pretend you're undertaking some noble guerilla war against the corporate masses by listening to ( of all bands) Trivium, that's peachy. But don't come here and pretend to know what the fuck you're talking about.

And for the love of God metallicaman, you just described yourself. And quit fellating Steerpike, it doesn't make you look any better.
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Sharkmenow
October 13th 2006


64 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

Acey,Im a guitar player and Im telling you right now in no way whatsoever did they take any riffs from metallica.Its like people wanna convince themselves of that because they hear the way hes singing and automatically think "metallica".



This album was recorded in standard tuning,metallica plays in standard.Look at some tabs for songs that you think are rips on metallica and then compare the tabs to one another,I guarantee you they will look nothing alike,and thats in the same tuning.The guitar work is like 5x more complex than metallica's,ill put it to you like that.Metallica's solos are better though,so far,despite the fact that kirk abused the wa.

Sharkmenow
October 13th 2006


64 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

"Way to contradict yourself. Any argument you thought you had about bias is now completely void. You're neither open-minded, nor credibile, and you can prattle on as long as you like about how hardcore Trivium is and how much respect they're getting elsewhere. You're done. "





Actually,I didnt contradict myslef at all.My original response was that I wouldnt be caught dead listening to that music,nor can I relate to it.It doesnt mean I havent heard it before(I do have female friends and a life)or that I think she isnt talented,its just that that kind of music is crap,plain and simple.Ill take Janis over one of those manufactured divas anyday.



You post these responses with the intention of being witty and intelligent but the fact that you just stated i contradicted myself when anybody who reads those posts and knows what "contradict" means will see that I most certainly did not.Fool.

metallicaman8
October 13th 2006


4677 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

And for the love of God metallicaman, you just described yourself.




Admittedly, what I described used to be my stand point on music. Luckily for me constant heckling has forced me to realise that there's more to it (song writing and etc.)



This album was recorded in standard tuning,metallica plays in standard.Look at some tabs for songs that you think are rips on metallica and then compare the tabs to one another,I guarantee you they will look nothing alike,and thats in the same tuning.The guitar work is like 5x more complex than metallica's,ill put it to you like that.Metallica's solos are better though,so far,despite the fact that kirk abused the wa.




Alright, first off both bands playing in standard tuning has nothing to do with anything. Hundreds of bands play in standard tuninng without sounding the same. It's not hard to play in the same tuning as a band and not sound the same. Second, FYI St. Anger was played in drop C. Also, they didn't steal riffs directly from Metallica, but more converted to Metallica's style. Not to mention the vocal similarites, which i believe were they main target of comparison, not so much the instrumentals. Yes, Metallica's solos are better



...You can't abuse wah, it's just too awesome.

Bron-Yr-Aur
October 13th 2006


4405 Comments


Actually,I didnt contradict myslef at all.My original response was that I wouldnt be caught dead listening to that music,nor can I relate to it.It doesnt mean I havent heard it before(I do have female friends and a life)or that I think she isnt talented,its just that that kind of music is crap,plain and simple.Ill take Janis over one of those manufactured divas anyday.

Sorry. You did. You try to claim that the reviewer is biased for rating Trivium so low, and then call something that you admitted took talent to make crap because it's pop. You're bias. You contradicted yourself.

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Sharkmenow
October 13th 2006


64 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

Lol,did you read what you just posted?Hell,I hate pop music but I guess I can see someone giving her a 3,if they like that kind of music and think shes got talent.Pop music is crap,but if you compare two piles of sh*t one has to be better/bigger than the other,right?



Stop trying to make yourself look intelligent cause it aint workin.Also,get a dictionary too while you're at it.

metallicaman8
October 13th 2006


4677 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

Lol,did you read what you just posted?Hell,I hate pop music but I guess I can see someone giving her a 3,if they like that kind of music and think shes got talent.Pop music is crap,but if you compare two piles of sh*t one has to be better/bigger than the other,right?




Dude, you're retarded. You completely missed his point.



Stop trying to make yourself look intelligent cause it aint workin.Also,get a dictionary too while you're at it.




You're saying 'aint' and 'workin' (you're missing the G) and he needs a dictionary? HA!

Bron-Yr-Aur
October 13th 2006


4405 Comments


Lol,did you read what you just posted?

Unfortunately, yes I did.

Hell,I hate pop music but I guess I can see someone giving her a 3,if they like that kind of music and think shes got talent.

Quit acting like the only thing I listen to is Christina Aguilera. Aside from that, you already admitte she had talent.

Stop trying to make yourself look intelligent cause it aint workin.

Stop ignoring all of my points.

Also,get a dictionary too while you're at it.

Jesus man. You're flat out refusing to admit you're biased. If someone calling someone else biased and then saying the shit you've said about pop music isn't a contradiction, what do you call it?

Wait. I don't want to know. Given all the slanderous, vile filth you've spewed already you'd probably call it 'Jihad'.

metallicaman8
October 13th 2006


4677 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

Slang,buddy.




I'm perefectly aware of what it is and there's nothing wrong with it. The fact is if you're going to be using it you shouldn't be telling other people to improve their vocabulary.This Message Edited On 10.13.06

Sharkmenow
October 13th 2006


64 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

spelling and meaning are two different things.

metallicaman8
October 13th 2006


4677 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

spelling and meaning are two different things.




True, but it just seems rather hypocritical to tell someone they need to improve their vocabulary when you're typing slang. Not to mention the fact that Bron really doesn't need to improve his vocbaulary at all.

Sharkmenow
October 13th 2006


64 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

Vocabulary is based on the words you know the meaning of and how to use them.That has nothing to do with my slangster spelling.







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