Album Rating: 4.5

never been a fan of that take bc plenty of bad albums come out after long gaps and vice versa, like it doesn't seem to have much bearing one way or the other. Sometimes albums just take a while, and ofc theres covid setting back many bands by a couple years in their cycle. but mayb I'm just more inclined to disagree bc I actually think this was worth the wait lol

Album Rating: 3.0

To be clear, I’m not saying it’s not as good because of the wait. It’s just not as good as their first 2 records. The long wait just adds to the disappointment.

Album Rating: 2.0 | Sound Off

I only mentioned wanting cake to kinda bring the tension down between Jay and hawks



Like i said earlier taking 6ish years to create this and then going with the chosen production that muddies everything, confuses me

Album Rating: 4.0 | Sound Off

Band suck ahrd agreed

lol @jrlikestodance's defense of hawks

Like I said, I too do criticize albums, yes, obviously. I criticized THIS album ffs. But neither I, nor anyone else that I can think of spam multiple albums' threads to no end, even years after they've been released, effectively killing all sane discussion. I don't like seeing that in any thread, no matter my enjoyment of whatever it is. I don't want that 4chan or 8chan shit anywhere for that matter. What's worse, it either got even more excessive, or worked in the way I explained, in that it killed all other discussion with nothing left but shitposting to see, and/or drove people away from this site, further minimizing any real discussions to be had.

If that's what you want, there are sites for that. But this is not one of them. That's my point.

Album Rating: 4.0 | Sound Off

Oh my god everyone stopppp

Hawks can you have opinion instead of “this is shit”

Youre staff now, head of the family, give us something bro

Actually. That critique on this almost works lmao

Album Rating: 2.0 | Sound Off

I wish i could see the time gap between your comments twilight haha

Album Rating: 1.0

I explained on the first or second page why I think its shit if you'd just take five seconds to look.

Album Rating: 3.5

my favorite motograter album

I might like Fortress Down more than anything on let it in. Not really sure why they have that effect on his voice there but it doesn't decrease my enjoyment of the track.

Album Rating: 4.5

The album sounds much, much better on proper headphones/IEMs from a lossless source. Anyone ripping the production doesn't understand the difference between "they did a bad job" vs. "I don't like the production choices they made". There's tons of detail and interesting stuff going on in every track that one listen doesn't do it justice, imo.

love you hawks but i do kinda agree to an extent

"This is so bad."

"This band sucks so hard its actually crazy."

"Shite - No Stranger to Shit"

"I actually tried and its just one of the worst things ever. I hate this band."

"Incredibly shit agreed!!!"

"We should make this a BOC thread, this album isn't worth talking about. Other than to call it shit of course."

"They suck hard agreed."

"Loathe - No Stranger to Shit"

"I would call it shit agreed."

"Awful band agreed."

"Awful band agreed. [2]"

"And shit."

"Awful band agreed."

"Decently shit agreed bro."

"They never left the toilet."

"What does this band sucking have to do with boredom???"

"Who the hell could enjoy listening to this atrocity???"

"Blows agreed."

all individual comments in this thread alone. there's obv a couple more substantive comments here and there but you do this kinda thing for every album you don't like (which is quite a lot), and i think its become especially stifling to these threads since the mass exodus last year.

Album Rating: 1.0

Awful band agreed Alex.

but like, would you not find that entirely off-putting if someone were continuously doing that in say... the thread of the hypothetical awesome new cradle album you really liked?

Album Rating: 1.0

No because I'm not a baby.

i'd have to see it to believe it

After hearing Block of Flats I'm thinking a Static Dress/Loathe split ep would be pretty fuckin cool.

Album Rating: 4.0 | Sound Off

Agreed, especially because a static dress song came on autoplay as soon as this album finished this morning and yeah they'd make a killer split