Album Rating: 3.0

i don't think private music is above classic tones and i think most would agree. i have however seen most people claim this is top 3 converge which is outrageous but again nbd. im happy you're all happy.

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

Is force meets presence the hardest these homies have ever gone???



Also I hear degausser in the opening of gilded cage.



What a fucking album.

Album Rating: 4.5

Top 3 is wild but this has potential to rise up the ranks with time. Like Wildcard mentioned, this has a No Heroes vibe which I am a sucker for personally



Also yea the intro to Force is massive. You can imagine the pit opening up in your head lol

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

Absolutely not their best album, that’s cope to levels never before seen… however, if I really sat down and thought about it I could very easily see it cracking their top 5, shit maybe even 4.



That said, I don’t think they’ll ever make another record on the level of Jane Doe, You Fail Me, or All We Love We Leave Behind. But idk right this second I like this more than Axe to Fall even. I think the *only* thing Axe to Fall has on this is having Wretched World, but I think the bangers go even harder here and the sludgier moments are better than Worms Will Feed or something like Damages.



Off the dome, gun to my head



11. Halo in a Haystack

10. No Heroes

9. When Forever Comes Crashing

8. Bloodmoon: I

7. Petitioning the Empty Sky

6. The Dusk in Us

5. Axe to Fall

4. Love is Not Enough

3. Jane Doe

2. All We Love We Leave Behind

1. You Fail Me



This goes without saying, but imo the top three are in a league of their own. Honestly all three stake a valid claim to being a genre high point, Jane just has the edge because it was a watershed moment for metalcore in general. I think they topped it immediately and then did it again a decade later lol.

Album Rating: 3.5

I'm trying really hard to get into Jane Doe and I simply can't. The vocals really ruin it for me but maybe its something I can grasp over time. You Fail Me was better, but still kinda hard to get into. Think I'll try Axe to Fall next.

Album Rating: 3.5

Why we dickriding [2]



Fun album, but I’m hating

Album Rating: 3.5

I mean, having it at a 3.5 doesn’t mean you guys aren’t dickriding.

Album Rating: 4.0

wildcard prob the list i most agree with

Album Rating: 4.0

Definitely think this is the best album to introduce the band to someone



Though AtF will always have a place in my heart as my first Converge album

Album Rating: 4.0

Jane Doe was my first Converge thanks to this site. When I joined it was pretty much just universally recommended no matter what.

Me: "Hey guys I'm new here and really like pop-punk"

11 people immediately: "Check Jane Doe by Converge"



I don't listen to their discography enough to rank the whole thing but my top 5 would be:

1. All We Love We Leave Behind

2. Axe to Fall

3. Love Is Not Enough

4. Jane Doe

5. You Fail Me



I'm sure that's a terrible ranking by most people's standards, but for whatever reason they just really peaked for me from 2009-2012. And this album feels like it could have been ripped right from that time frame.

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

Dude the thing with this band is there is no wrong ranking, aside from having Halo dead last I could literally see any variation of that and be like “yep checks out”



never made a bad or even mediocre album. Halo still has some heaters and I’m convinced the average is so low because it got rated by people who probably never even listened to the fuckin thing. A 2.7 for that is absolutely insane to me. Sure, it’s worse than pretty much everything that followed but it’s still a good album.

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

Goated band, they deserve the dickriding

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

“Love is essential, but it's not everything." Truer words are rarely spoken, and in this case the speaker is Converge vocalist and artist-in-residence Jacob Bannon. The Massachusetts band's time-honored melding of hardcore and metal hits a new high with Love Is Not Enough, arguably their most ferocious-and musical-album yet. "There's probably two places where I feel we let things breathe a little bit, but otherwise it's quite dark and smothering and intense the whole way," Bannon tells Apple Music. "It's unrelenting and super raw the entire time, and that's by design, because that's how we feel. That's what's resonating in our collective spirit right now." Lyrically, Love Is Not Enough revolves around that very idea: As humanity's dark forces close in on every one of us, we'll need more than emotional affirmation and positive relationships to get through it. "We live in this perpetual state of chaos and panic right now, and I think that all of us feel that in some way," Bannon says. "And it's been like this for quite some time. I don't see that being absent from any of our lives anytime soon. The album is a mirror of that."



I’d agree that it probably is their most urgent album. The atmosphere is suffocating tbh

Album Rating: 5.0

I've listened to it about as many times as Hawks now and I think this one has some legs. It's just so visceral. Besides JD, I really don't think any of their other albums feels like the band locked-in so hard. Maybe YFM? My personal favorite is AtF, but I latched onto this in a big way. It's an instant classic for me.

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

Somehow managed to exceed my expectations. The title track was a great pick for a single, it’s very converge by the numbers, but I didn’t really know how I felt about We Were Never the Same as a closer, but it fits so perfectly coming off the heels of Make Me Forget You. I still wish they hadn’t dropped it as a single, there’s a number of songs that would work better as singles and also I just fucking hate when closers are pre release singles, it feels like spoiling the ending to a movie. Tbh I wouldn’t have picked any of the last three as a single, Bad Faith or Force Meets Presence would’ve been better singles imo



Also, is Kurt finally using a 7 string? The guitars sound so goddamned THICK on the whole thing but Bad Faith and Amon Amok especially. Regardless, I think this might be Kurt’s best produced album ever. It somehow sounds even better than All We Love We Leave Behind. The bass is so goddamn perfect sounding and Ben sounds like an absolute monster, I remember talking to him about Bloodmoon and he didn’t seem particularly thrilled over it, but I can tell he had a good ass time recording this album.



Okay, and also (again) where the fuck is Doom in Bloom? Are these assholes just teasing us with a short record only to blow our minds by dropping a second album. We know for a fact that there were AT LEAST 20 songs written during these sessions… I really think we’re gonna get bare minimum a Beautiful Ruin style EP, probably a bit longer considering that whole thing is barely longer than Doom in Bloom. But how sick would it be if they dropped another 30 minute LP later this year?



I don’t think it’ll happen but a man can dream

Album Rating: 3.5

After 2 spin, this shapes to be a very good album. But to me it seems like that they did sacrifice some dynamics, nuance and complexity to even higher levels of crushing heaviness, particularly in the drumming.. drumming seemed to stand out and somehow really lead the songs in the past, now it is kinda mostly accentuating the heaviness, going along (albeit in a technically excellent way). While I am noT against heaviness at all, this is not a great trade off for Converge imo.

Album Rating: 5.0

I keep coming back to this and it keeps getting better. Might drop this down later but right now? 5. Holy SHIT.

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

I could very easily see myself at that point too. I’ll give it a few more weeks, let it simmer, before I think about slapping a five on it but the fact that we’re even having this conversation is fucking crazy.



These old ass men, like literally my parents’ age, show more fire and unbridled fucking passion than bands half their age. I’m not picking on any group specifically, but just look around… by album 5 they’re making radio friendly bullshit, are coasting on the success of their older, better records, or have just called it a day altogether.



Then you got these guys... on album fucking 11 and we’re talking about if it’s as good something like You Fail Me or Axe to Fall, seriously discussing if the new record lives up to genre classics. They’re just as hungry and pissed off as they were 30 years ago. They have absolutely nothing to prove to anyone, and yet here we are.



Above all else, they feel genuine. There’s so many old bands that just feel like they’re going through motions. But not Converge. I love these guys so damn much.

Album Rating: 4.5

Make Me Forget You is just absolutely an instant classic. Up there with Aimless Arrow for me. Kinda feels likes a spiritual successor to that song for real

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

Yep, absolutely my favorite track here and the way it flows into We Were Never the Same is so perfect. With how short the record is I was kinda afraid that it would feel one note but I love the soundplay near the end of that song. Almost a full minute of ambient feedback noise with some cymbal hits but it builds tension so perfectly to set up for how devastating the closer is.



I liked We Were Never the Same pre release but had some reservations on it being the closer. But man, thematically it really does feel like so much of the album was building toward it. Honestly probably my favorite closer of theirs since Wretched World.