Steven Wilson The Future Bites
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porcupinetheater
January 31st 2021


11092 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

Can honestly be on board for the 10,000 pounds one, all those proceeds went straight to a fund to help venues struggling to get through the pandemic. Although then trying to frame that as satire just makes no ideological sense, because what are you mocking?



The normal special edition box sets, on the other hand...

Koris
Emeritus
January 31st 2021


22617 Comments

Album Rating: 2.7 | Sound Off

“It's not satire, it's wearing the illusion of satire to profit off the exact thing he's criticizing. Dude's making special edition releases, marketing them as "collector's items," and charging through the nose for 'em.”



Yeah, that’s my biggest problem with the entire album



zakalwe
January 31st 2021


41962 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Record Company Yes Man

TalonsOfFire
Emeritus
January 31st 2021


21027 Comments

Album Rating: 2.8 | Sound Off

He has a special 10,000 pounds "ultra deluxe" box set available, where there's only one copy, and the whole $10,000 is going to a music venue charity, which is great.



Edit: someone posted this already, but yea maybe if he did something similar with the regular deluxe editions too it'd be nice.

Torontonian
January 31st 2021


2747 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

Making music and selling it is inherently consumerist tho. Gotta make a living in this world somehow, so I think some of the criticism is a bit harsh. If money weren't a necessity I would agree, but given that it is...

zakalwe
January 31st 2021


41962 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

10000 quid to save a music venue and it’ll still be shit

TalonsOfFire
Emeritus
January 31st 2021


21027 Comments

Album Rating: 2.8 | Sound Off

In any case the satire falls flat. Wilson has never been adept at focusing on clever or witty lyrics that aim to satirize. He should stick to emotional melancholia and ghost stories.

Torontonian
January 31st 2021


2747 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

Agree

Koris
Emeritus
January 31st 2021


22617 Comments

Album Rating: 2.7 | Sound Off

Agreed, Talons

Lord(e)Po)))ts
January 31st 2021


70256 Comments


Agree but he should just not sing

Torontonian
January 31st 2021


2747 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

Hot take

kalkwiese
January 31st 2021


11043 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

I'm not saying it is well executed, I think we can agree on that.

I'm not sure what Wilson is actually making a living of tbh. Music sales aren't really what brings the money. Wilson always did these countless versions and remasterings and remixes of his own albums. Some people have always criticised that. Is this really that different? It doesn't make it better, I guess, but I'm surprised people are salty about it just now that he makes it an album's concept.

Calling me a stan was quite rude, I'm not even that much of a fan tbh

Lord(e)Po)))ts
January 31st 2021


70256 Comments


The fact that he's been doing that his whole career makes it worse/even more hypocritical if anything lmao



Jasdevi087
January 31st 2021


8176 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5 | Sound Off

didn't someone spend like a grand on this?

Torontonian
January 31st 2021


2747 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

Is an artist just not supposed to make a living tho? I don't think it's unreasonable for someone to be against consumerism in principle but have to succumb to it bc well we need money right.

Jasdevi087
January 31st 2021


8176 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5 | Sound Off

"Is an artist just not supposed to make a living tho? I don't think it's unreasonable for someone to be against consumerism in principle but have to succumb to it bc well we need money right."



except that Wilson never frames it like that

porcupinetheater
January 31st 2021


11092 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

I don't think anyone's criticizing Wilson for trying to make money. I think the criticisms stem from him making the point that the very means he's using to make said money are only supported by rubes and dipshits that don't think for themselves and spend all their time suckling at the tit of consumerism.



Like restaurants are cool, awesome, but if a restaurant started shitting on their plates and serving them next to napkins stamped with "eat this, you fucking hungry dumbass" and then still dropped a check at the end, it might feel a little odd.



And responding to the resultant criticism with, "yeah, but a restaurant still has to make money!!" is kind of missing the point

zakalwe
January 31st 2021


41962 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

I like a padded booklet

Jasdevi087
January 31st 2021


8176 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5 | Sound Off

if he was openly like "hey guys, I'd quite like to make a living off of my music, please spend money on my exuberantly priced hunks of plastic" I would have absolutely no trouble understanding him

kalkwiese
January 31st 2021


11043 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

In a recent video he called the whole thing 'a critique and also a love letter to consumption' or something similar to that. It's always weird to see artists explain their concepts as something very nuanced and when you actually listen to the music, it's ... flat and kinda stupid.



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