The fact that a law like that could pass at all, again, sets a dangerous precedent. When the minority can warp the law to coddle their own insecurities and change the way we (the VAST majority) speak and conduct ourselves, yes, it is a fucking problem.

https://www.mcgilldaily.com/2017/09/no-pronouns-wont-send-you-to-jail/

Google is ur friend hun

Do you not know what 'precedent' means?

"The fact that a law like that could pass at all, again, sets a dangerous precedent. When the minority can warp the law to coddle their own insecurities and change the way we (the VAST majority) speak and conduct ourselves, yes, it is a fucking problem."

at this stage i'd be more terrified of the political majority but that aside i think the issue is being framed in a way that isn't quite accurate. i know it's knew legislature but it's also passed based on a time-honoured and precious thing in any common law system: the fundamental right of human dignity. i guess at this stage the argument becomes whether you think purposefully misusing pronouns represents an affront on a human dignity any citizen is entitled to. I think, personally, it is. so it's more a facet of law broadening in the wake of more empirical knowledge being gauged on gender than the demands of the 1 percent superceding the demands of the other 99 if you know what i mean (incidentally: a lot of those 99 would have no problems having it codified in law)

i do take your point but i don't think this is going to be the start of a slippery slope so much as a continuation of a long-standing legal tradition

I guess we'll have to let time be the deciding factor. As it stands, I think it's incredibly stupid and sets a bad precedent (a word bat and platnum don't seem to understand). i don't think it's indignant to not refer to a person by their preferred pronoun. I think the real indignation is forcing them to.

"A word bat and platnum don't seem to understand"

Nice sentence fam

Did that not make grammatical sense? Wut?

“Toxic masculinity wasn't a thing for thousands of years but now all of a sudden, it's an epidemic.”
just because the language is recent doesn’t mean the thing itself is. anyone whose insecurity about being less of a man has led them to do something they don’t actually want to do - or affected them psychologically and negatively - should probably care about the conversation, regardless of whether the ‘sjw’ diction is offputting

The problem has been toxicity in general. The left has done enough as it is to guilt white straight males for being white straight males without having to worry about their gender also supposedly being inherently toxic. I think gendering everything and focusing so heavily on race and language is a major fucking problem these days. It segregates people, splits them into camps, spreads misinformation like wildfire. It is a bad thing imo

if men were inherently toxic then “toxic masculinity” would be redundant and the term wouldn’t be used as such.

How do you define a toxic male then? Aren't females also toxic? Maybe the term is arbitrary and kind of stupid and only alienates guys and perpetuates gender biases?

"guilt white straight males for being white straight males "

Victim complex strong 💪💪💪

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"if men were inherently toxic then “toxic masculinity” would be redundant and the term wouldn’t be used as such."

oh my god thank you

Statistically backed eh?

Thread makes me want to rub my brain through a cheese grater

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what is toxic femininity friend

what would you consider toxic femininity

I feel lazy in quoting a Quora thread but
https://www.quora.com/Feminists-talk-a-lot-about-toxic-masculinity-Is-there-an-equivalent-toxic-femininity-or-are-women-never-toxic-in-feminism
this touches on a lot of decent points (at least with a passing glance).
((I meant to capture the Carolyn Dalton reply, didn’t really read the others))

Good post.

"But toxic masculinity as a phenomenon is first and most broadly toxic to men. I’ve observed that some men tend to encounter the term and feel like they’re being told they themselves are toxic by virtue of being male or having masculinity. And I won’t deny that some feminists seem to use the term in ways that insinuate gender-shaming and accusation. There will always be people in any group who oversimplify things. There’s no stopping that."

This especially resonates with me. I don't hate feminism. I think it's an important topic that needs to be addressed in many arenas, but it's hard not to generalize when talking about feminism in the modern age, because all I seem to encounter are these extremists

Great review ramon!! :]

yeah anyway is this as solid as brutalism or what, wassthedeal