Tyler, the Creator Flower Boy
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Conmaniac
July 24th 2017


27771 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

been kissin white boys since 2004

literallyzach
July 24th 2017


520 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

im not saying it HAS to be gayer....... but i would have personally liked it that way

danielcardoso
July 24th 2017


11770 Comments


Wtf are you on about.

Corney
July 24th 2017


193 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Just watch gay porn and listen to it. Problem solved!

brainmelter
July 24th 2017


8542 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

maybe that's a little too gay ..

literallyzach
July 24th 2017


520 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

lord forgive me for wanting more relatable rap and pop music as a gay man

AsleepInTheBack
Emeritus
July 24th 2017


10745 Comments


What would make it gayer? What quality is 'gay'?

rabidfish
July 24th 2017


9004 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

eh, i don't know...

i can relate to gay-oriented music as a heterosexual man, don't see why it can't be the other way round.



I mean, i don't see it as a big issue myself, but i have a certain way of engaging emotionally to music that's probably not yours, zachyboi

Maniac!
July 24th 2017


28551 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Dude has a coming out album called flower boy and apparently the gay delegation needs time to convene on the appropriate quantity of gay for an album

literallyzach
July 24th 2017


520 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

it's not that i don't relate to music made by straight people, (i obviously do like almost all of my fives are heteros) it's just that there is a very limited spectrum of gay musicians making gay music for gay people. so there's not a lot of material made explicitly for us and it stings when questionably gay artists don't do much to offer any perspective on an experience that is wildly insular and very different from that of straight people's

also @asleep i can't isolate in a single comment what GAY is as a formal quality but it's very real, like even outside of camp culture or specific lgbt vernacular there's the simple characteristic of, you know, describing the experience of love/affection/lust between two men. and there's.... not a ton of that here

AsleepInTheBack
Emeritus
July 24th 2017


10745 Comments


Sounds like an elusive and subjective thing. If you're not feeling that from this then I aint gonna question it

literallyzach
July 24th 2017


520 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

how much of a coming out album is this really though. like truthfully.

literallyzach
July 24th 2017


520 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

like outside of the twitter discourse please show me the receipts

Conmaniac
July 24th 2017


27771 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

I could care less if he's gay or not, the music is fucking fantastic

AsleepInTheBack
Emeritus
July 24th 2017


10745 Comments


didn't think it was meant to be a whole album about coming out tbh. its a tyler album, on which he happens to come out

AsleepInTheBack
Emeritus
July 24th 2017


10745 Comments


also yeah what con said. pretty good on my first listen so far

literallyzach
July 24th 2017


520 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

i would agree with that more but how am i supposed to solidify any one of his many personas as him and not just another personal expression or theatrical element. like he's talked about rape and murder and he hasn't raped or killed anyone i imagine so like how do you choose what to take seriously and what to chalk up as impressionistic?

AsleepInTheBack
Emeritus
July 24th 2017


10745 Comments


you take seriously what you think needs to be taken seriously, and you chalk up as impressionistic what you think needs to be chalked up as impressionistic. idk, I feel like the guy usually makes a clear distinction between the two, being over the top and lavish when its theatrical and things being a bit more low key when he's being himself. Though I'm new to the guys work, so what do I know

runaways
July 24th 2017


683 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

...a lot of this has to do with his sexuality or at least has a reference to it. Foreword. I Ain't Got Time, See You Again, Garden Shed, November...

literallyzach
July 24th 2017


520 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

and so why do i feel as if he hasn't said anything complete about it? like what is he offering with it? is it just for the sake of personal exposition or.....



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