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NeutralThunder12
January 24th 2012


8742 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

haha at someguest i definitely agree, but i think we can agree Smith was never the happiest guy

someguest
January 24th 2012


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I guess I can agree to that. It's easy for me to relate to his music. It seems vulnerable, lacking self-esteem as if it's dreading the moment where someone will listen to it. The feeling that he'll never truly be happy is evident in all his material that I've heard, and I think it's something the more cynical of us can really appreciate.

fsharptrit0ne
January 24th 2012


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elliot was a regular ol nick drake

Romulus
January 24th 2012


9117 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

don't get me wrong i'm not arguing that the album/song itself isn't depressing, just the effect it has on me is different, if that makes sense. i think he has this uncanny skill to come off relatable to the listener which makes even his 'darkest' songs appealing. that's what i find soothing, not the actual music/lyrics/you get me



edit: real music discussions on sputnik i < 3 this

NeutralThunder12
January 24th 2012


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their definitely similar in that way fsharp. Only difference is Smith got to experience acclaim, fame and a huge, dedicated fan base in his lifetime, while Nick Drake got none of that until years and years after his suicide.

someguest
January 24th 2012


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bingo romulus. and yeah, these discussions don't happen often so you have to treasure them.



NeutralThunder12
January 24th 2012


8742 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

@Rom I definitely can see that. I can see how somebody can find that soothing. And it kind of is for me too, but when I look at his first two records, considering the lyrical content, rawness and lonely sound it gives off, I get two incredibly dark albums. But they can be looked at a lot of ways. Hes definitely a brilliant lyricist, and did make a lot of his songs able to channel others too feel the same way, but for me it doesn't take away how crushing and dark some of the lines are, and especially the way he sings them sometimes. I think we can all agree dark or not, hes provided some of the most emotionally powerful music ever written.

Enotron
January 24th 2012


7695 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

to me the biggest misconception about elliott were that his songs were self-portraits. they're just stories with relatable themes and morals.

NeutralThunder12
January 24th 2012


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A lot of his early work is based on his own experiences.

Enotron
January 24th 2012


7695 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

i guess but for example a lot of songs have a drug addiction theme here but he wasn't even really a drug addict around the time this album came out, just an alcoholic.



other than singing about the abuse he went through as a child, i don't think his writing ever got too specific. roman candle has a lot of story/fables(condor ave, no name 2, drive all over town).

Romulus
January 24th 2012


9117 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

all this talk reminds me that he is my favorite artist by far

Enotron
January 24th 2012


7695 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

also progmaster the worst of smith's depression and abuse came around the either or/xo period and peaked after figure 8 was

released. ultimately i think the connection between his personal life and his music is incredibly exaggerated. that's why after the

self-titled he tried to explore more diverse moods.

Enotron
January 24th 2012


7695 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

and yeah agreed rom

Funeralopolis
April 2nd 2012


14586 Comments


the time has come for christian brothers and overcoats we're running speed trials

ShadowRemains
April 2nd 2012


28700 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

no bad dream fucker's gonna boss me around

NeutralThunder12
April 2nd 2012


8742 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

top 5 albums ever made

Archelaos
April 14th 2012


241 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

This album means so much to me. Unlike some people I've met, Smith's music, while undeniably dark and depressing, isn't necessarily monochromatic. There's a certain humour to some of his writing, and hope, although faint, is still there at times.

chambered69
April 19th 2012


1253 Comments


only heard needle in the hay thanks to royal tenenbaums but holy fuck that song is good i need this album

Sowing
Moderator
April 19th 2012


45556 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Needle in the hay is the shit

ThunderNeutral21
April 19th 2012


3863 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

best album ever made almost



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